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[Fleischgeruch]

So, was I the only one who agreed merging with Rev clan? And because I wanted to join them, the whole clan is about to breakup? And other people like Reuben are already making funny new threads called Ohh 2.0? The sad thing is that people here talk about shit and leaders of this clan are remaining silent, that makes the situation even worse. And another thing: What is Jdrew doing here?

Maybe next time listen to what your clanmates want instead of furthering your own goals. And since all the other merged clan leaders did the same thing, you have a clan where 50% of the members don't have a clue that they're in it. Ohh 1.0 is already history, that's why everyone is silent.
Also Jdrew is gone no need to worry about him anymore.

[Mr.Torch]

Maybe next time listen to what your clanmates want instead of furthering your own goals.

As many reachable people as possible were PM'ed. Very few even bothered to respond. We can't control whether they check their PM's or not.

[ReubenMcHawk]

Based on everything I've seen, it seems like all those clans saw what LINES and SPQR did and wanted to merge too, just without running it by the majority of their members like I'm imagining they did. They also didn't realize the ramifications of taking the handful of competent clans and merging them into one.

[Willy]

We didn't ask anyone but higher ups of both clans -- if members didn't like it they could feel free to join flavor of the month xyz clan instead. It's probably been a combination of competent leadership, prior ongoing friendships and contact between members, careful wording and just a bit of dumb luck that's made it turn out as well as it has. Merging is not easy and not always the best idea.

[Atreyu]

Based on everything I've seen, it seems like all those clans saw what LINES and SPQR did and wanted to merge too, just without running it by the majority of their members like I'm imagining they did. They also didn't realize the ramifications of taking the handful of competent clans and merging them into one.

If you use your perceptive abilities, it might become evident that the clan scene in this community is dying, quite plainly. I realized that my clan was only alive and running (well) solely on my efforts, and that if ever I decided to stop, or give up, the whole clan would collapse. And that I was not the only one; all clans are much weaker than what their potentials might have been a year or so back.

In short, we realized that
-Ohh, which only had about (less than) a little under ten players still remotely active
-GP which had little future, and
-Sirs & Ladies, which could not do well at a point in the community where little can happen successfully (other than "trolling" or being a ten year old yoloswagger)
had only one choice if we wanted to continue as a strong band of friends and players; merge.

The reason a portion of members did not realize the merge would happen, and will show up in a month or so clueless about everything, is not so much because any leaders were negligent, selfish, or hasty, but because inactivity and lack of communication was an issue large enough to stop some from knowing about, or acting with the change.

We spoke about the merge nearly a week before it was publicly announced; it seemed to you like an instant, heat-of-the moment decision, which it certainly was the opposite of. In the meantime, we told as many as possible about it, even those who pretend to be clueless got PM's, and we began making plans and organizing things (IRC, skype, art, website etc.) as thoroughly as possible with some leaders on vacation, others busy etc. Some members who were active helped us out, and one (shywolf) became a council member.

To those of you who treat everything as if your perceptions and assumptions are perfect, perhaps try to understand things a little deeper. Vomiting a steady flow of words does not help anyone.

I am sure Reuben will read this and take outright offense, thinking this was aimed for him, since I quoted him, but it is aimed to anyone, not necessarily Reuben, who decides to judge things without the information. Opinions are fine, judgements are foolish.

[ReubenMcHawk]

If you use your perceptive abilities, it might become evident that the clan scene in this community is dying, quite plainly. I realized that my clan was only alive and running (well) solely on my efforts, and that if ever I decided to stop, or give up, the whole clan would collapse. And that I was not the only one; all clans are much weaker than what their potentials might have been a year or so back.

In short, we realized that
-Ohh, which only had about (less than) a little under ten players still remotely active
-GP which had little future, and
-Sirs & Ladies, which could not do well at a point in the community where little can happen successfully (other than "trolling" or being a ten year old yoloswagger)
had only one choice if we wanted to continue as a strong band of friends and players; merge.

The reason a portion of members did not realize the merge would happen, and will show up in a month or so clueless about everything, is not so much because any leaders were negligent, selfish, or hasty, but because inactivity and lack of communication was an issue large enough to stop some from knowing about, or acting with the change.

We spoke about the merge nearly a week before it was publicly announced; it seemed to you like an instant, heat-of-the moment decision, which it certainly was the opposite of. In the meantime, we told as many as possible about it, even those who pretend to be clueless got PM's, and we began making plans and organizing things (IRC, skype, art, website etc.) as thoroughly as possible with some leaders on vacation, others busy etc. Some members who were active helped us out, and one (shywolf) became a council member.

To those of you who treat everything as if your perceptions and assumptions are perfect, perhaps try to understand things a little deeper. Vomiting a steady flow of words does not help anyone.

I am sure Reuben will read this and take outright offense, thinking this was aimed for him, since I quoted him, but it is aimed to anyone, not necessarily Reuben, who decides to judge things without the information. Opinions are fine, judgements are foolish.

That last paragraph was a bit presumptuous, and the word salad took a bit to read through, but I do agree that the clan scene is dying. That's why I'm saying that people shouldn't make a habit of these mergers, all it'll mean is less clans. For a while LINES and SPQR were the only clans I knew of that weren't incompetent, and then they merged. There, now you have one good clan and zero competition.

[Atreyu]

If there is no competition, there doesn't deserve to be. A merge insures the collective survival of the involved clans as a single, united front.

You now have one strong clan where in little time the clans involved would have all died, leaving nothing. If that had happened, and no merge had taken place, there would have been one fewer clan (one of the current biggest at that) and less activity as a whole.

In other words, it was necessary, and it is now pointless to lament what has already happened. You would do well to lend us your support and advice rather than bashing us to death.

[ReubenMcHawk]

There's no point in having clans if there's only one good one. The entire clan scene thrives on competition, if there isn't any then being in a clan would be meaningless. If I had the option, I'd have actively worked to improve my clan and make it stand on its own, rather than trying to create some unstoppable powerhouse.

[Mr.Torch]

There's no point in having clans if there's only one good one. The entire clan scene thrives on competition, if there isn't any then being in a clan would be meaningless. If I had the option, I'd have actively worked to improve my clan and make it stand on its own, rather than trying to create some unstoppable powerhouse.

Prepare yourselves, Ohh 3.0 - You saw it here first folks!

[ReubenMcHawk]

If Ohh 2.0 dies then feel free to make a third one.

[Electrix]

If Ohh 2.0 dies then feel free to make a third one.

[Mr.Torch]

If Ohh 2.0 dies then feel free to make a third one.

Thanks, I think we all rely on each others permission here. :3

[Atreyu]

Currently, the top "competing" clans are:

-Komrades
-Injectors
-Revolution
-LINESPQR
-Ohh 2.0 if you want to call that a clan, and not a RoT toy
-A few small clans

I'm not sure how you can say that there isn't competition, just because there is less than the average some time ago, due only to the fact that there are less clans (it isn't easy making a clan, if ever it was). Taking into account the current macabre situation of AoS, we aren't exactly at a deficit.

" I'd have actively worked to improve my clan and make it stand on its own"

Yes you are right, I was definitely "slacking off" the entire period that my clan was around, not trying to create events, a social atmosphere, gain membership, and continue to solely build one of the biggest and most powerful clans of spring 2014 etc.

You may want to re-read what you are writing. You are acting as if the merge is a terrible thing that is negatively affecting the whole community, which it seems to be doing the opposite of, and either way, its done, so you can either choose to help or hurt.

[ReubenMcHawk]

If Ohh 2.0 dies then feel free to make a third one.

Thanks, I think we all rely on each others permission here. :3

I gave the original Ohh people a week to come back and take the name before I went all-in, and all the ones I talked to either didn't care or were happy to hand it over.

-Ohh 2.0 if you want to call that a clan, and not a RoT toy

Not sure why you doubt the legitimacy of my clan, nor am I sure why you have some animosity toward RoT (especially due to you not even being around when people had a valid reason to hate us) but alright.

Yes you are right, I was definitely "slacking off" the entire period that my clan was around, not trying to create events, a social atmosphere, gain membership, and continue to solely build one of the biggest and most powerful clans of spring 2014 etc.

I'm really not talking about your clan in particular, since I don't really know much about it or care much about the clan scene at all these days. All I'm saying, and this can back itself up, is that fewer clans = less competition.

You may want to re-read what you are writing. You are acting as if the merge is a terrible thing that is negatively affecting the whole community, which it seems to be doing the opposite of, and either way, its done, so you can either choose to help or hurt.

I dunno why you keep saying "it's done" as if some invisible force has made it impossible to undo, especially since I'm not even asking you to undo anything. I'm just talking numbers here, no need to take it personally.

[Atreyu]

It is nothing personal, and I do not mean to sound spiteful of RoT, which you are right, I was not around for, and frankly don't care all too much about.

To m(any/ost) though, this clan seems like more of a joke, "insult", or toy than an actual clan. I was simply restating this sentiment, which I neither share no disagree with.

Good luck with this clan, if you really want it to go anywhere.

I dunno why you keep saying "it's done" as if some invisible force has made it impossible to undo, especially since I'm not even asking you to undo anything. I'm just talking numbers here, no need to take it personally.

I am saying that the merge has taken place, and we cannot/will not devolve back into our former clans. Thus my saying that you can either support our efforts, or do the opposite. It seems to some that your action of "taking over" or "remaking" one of the clans that took part in the merge is an insult to the merge itself, and shows spite for what we have done. I personally could care less, but I believe you should realize that you haven't put yourself in a good light.