AoS: WWI/WWII VS modern

[Major Darkstar]

Or ACR, aka Counter Strike Play4Free

[ReubenMcHawk]

You're ignoring my point entirely. The fact is, there is absolutely no point in adding Arena to a game that revolves around environmental combat. It ruins the purpose

I really don't think you understand that people with a different opinion than you aren't awful. Nobody's stopping you from playing your favorite gamemode, why should you stop them from playing theirs?

The system requirements for AssaultCube Reloaded are even less than those of AOS.

I'm really not sure on that one, but I was mostly referring to the MW3 suggestion, which seemed like part of the anti-CoD bandwagon everyone hops on to sound cool.

[Arkger]

Or ACR, aka Counter Strike Play4Free

What's this ACR game? I looked it up but it showed me a racing game o_o.

[Demo123]

Or ACR, aka Counter Strike Play4Free

What's this ACR game? I looked it up but it showed me a racing game o_o.

Assaultcube Reloaded, I think.

[Ballistic]

I need to get this off my chest, and I don't care if I get heat for it...

...Will the modern-day shooter fanboys and COD kids kindly fuck off?

Why? BECAUSE THE ARENA SHOOTER FANDOM IS ONE OF THE MOST FUCKING ANNOYING FANDOMS IN THE HISTORY OF GAMING. IN THE NAME OF GOD, ABRAHAM, MOHAMMED OR WHATEVER FUCKING DEITY YOU WORSHIP, STOP AND GO BACK WHERE ARENA IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND REALIZE THAT SOME PEOPLE MIGHT WANT TO PLAY SOMETHING NON-MAINSTREAM.

Calm down... you can't make people play what you want them to play. If they want to play arena, let them play arena. If you don't want to play arena, don't play arena, it's that easy.

It's the idiots like you and Reuben who can't pick up what I'm throwing down.

50-60% of the servers on AOS now are Arena, which is a bad sign for a game that's based around using the environment to your advantage.
Half the kids who play Arena most likely have never played any other shooter mode in their life, and therefore want to infest their shitty ways in a game that was never intended to run this way.

If they want to whore Arena 24/7, they can fuck off to MW3 or AssaultCube Reloaded (or ANY OTHER FUCKING GAME THAT WAS INTENDED FOR ARENA PURPOSES). The true AOS community wants the game to not become Arena/TDM shooter #27597058.

If you're just going to respond to me with LET THEM PLAY MAN, then kindly fuck off.

What are we supposed to do? Go to all the arena servers and tell everyone to "fuck off"? If we close the arena servers we'll lose many players. Are better way of doing this is opening servers with better gamemodes and let them migrate to them.

Your attitude is that of a 12 year old COD player. Ever noticed that? So don't be telling us what to do if you can't get your own shit right.

[Arkger]

What are we supposed to do? Go to all the arena servers and tell everyone to "fuck off"? If we close the arena servers we'll lose many players. Are better way of doing this is opening servers with better gamemodes and let them migrate to them.

Your attitude is that of a 12 year old COD player. Ever noticed that? So don't be telling us what to do if you can't get your own shit right.

Keep it to the point. Your second paragraph is clearly just an insult. If you want him to actually listen to you, keep the bad words out. That's what's wrong with this community. Other than that honestly, the only reason they are on arena is because they can't find anything else to do, hence the need for better servers. Telling them to "fuck off" won't do anything but make them ragequit, which we don't need. We just need them to try other things, and maybe change what the prefer.

[Ballistic]

What are we supposed to do? Go to all the arena servers and tell everyone to "fuck off"? If we close the arena servers we'll lose many players. Are better way of doing this is opening servers with better gamemodes and let them migrate to them.

Your attitude is that of a 12 year old COD player. Ever noticed that? So don't be telling us what to do if you can't get your own shit right.

Keep it to the point. Your second paragraph is clearly just an insult. If you want him to actually listen to you, keep the bad words out. That's what's wrong with this community. Other than that honestly, the only reason they are on arena is because they can't find anything else to do, hence the need for better servers. Telling them to "fuck off" won't do anything but make them ragequit, which we don't need. We just need them to try other things, and maybe change what the prefer.

That's exactly what I'm saying in the first part.

If we close the arena servers we'll lose many players. Are better way of doing this is opening servers with better gamemodes and let them migrate to them.

I wrote the 2nd part because MajorDarkstar is just screaming around in caps and insulting everybody who doesn't have the same opinion as he does. If you actually compare our paragraphs you see how MajorDarkstar has like 10 "bad words" while I only have one. I was just telling him to calm down and he starts insulting me. That is clearly the attitude of an immature child. We don't need people screaming around in caps and insulting everone with different opinions. They don't help the community in any way.

[Somnium]

BnS doesn't control the servers. The individual persons do. So if you really want less arena maps then go to the server hoster. And even then. Who do you think that the hoster will seek to appease? you? or the 32 other players on the server.

I may not like Arena very much. But, it is nice to get off of the other maps once in awhile for a quick fast paced game. I know that Arena goes against Aos as it was originally but still. BnS is a diverse community with Diverse likes/Dislikes. If it was just a whole bunch of Ctf matches all on Normandy or any other map. The game would be boring. There is such a diverse amount of Game types, because, diversity allows you a choice. People like choices whether you admit or not. Just because, you don't like a game doesn't mean you should take away 200 other kids enjoyment. Raging your op will not solve, help, accomplish anything other than annoying the other community members. It was really pointless. If you had simply said. Eh, I don't really like arena. Too many COD kids. No one would have given you shit.

Raging never fixes anything. It just pisses people off.

[ReubenMcHawk]

I'd also like to point out that AoS was designed around being fairly open in the sense of unofficial open-sourced servers and modding capabilities, so there's no such thing as going "against AoS".

[Somnium]

^ One of AoS stand alone features is the ability for anyone with the ability to read a couple of paragraphs to mod anything in game. There are so many ways to spice up AoS. It's another reason I love AoS

[Revolet]

I'd also like to point out that AoS was designed around being fairly open in the sense of unofficial open-sourced servers and modding capabilities, so there's no such thing as going "against AoS".

I agree with this. Although I'm not a fan of arena, forcing people to abandon the gamemode is pretty stupid. It seems like some people have forgotten that this game wasn't just made to be played in a WWI/WWII style. We're able to make any type of mods and scripts for the game. I think one of the intents for AoS was to allow the community to modify the game into how they wanted it. There's no wrong into making Arena.
Although it was a dick move to make the gamemode

[Vezok]

I'd also like to point out that AoS was designed around being fairly open in the sense of unofficial open-sourced servers and modding capabilities, so there's no such thing as going "against AoS".

I agree with this. Although I'm not a fan of arena, forcing people to abandon the gamemode is pretty stupid. It seems like some people have forgotten that this game wasn't just made to be played in a WWI/WWII style. We're able to make any type of mods and scripts for the game. I think one of the intents for AoS was to allow the community to modify the game into how they wanted it. There's no wrong into making Arena.
Although it was a dick move to make the gamemode

I definitely agree with this. The main reason that this whole thing spiraled into a mess was because 0.75 is the absolute worst version of AoS ever conceived (1.0 isn't AoS). The lack of anything done about this has caused many of the revered players to storm out in frustration, and has, in turn, caused the game to slowly decompose into a cheap CoD for the BR's due to it's ability to be custom. I hate to jump on to this train, but we REALLY need 0.76 to become the main version, as it truly is far superior. Openspades has helped with this, but that's just one of about a half dozen of ways to go. Going to what Reki said somewhere made me think that BnS needs to get a group together to do some beautiful alternative and then officially endorse it.

TL:DR

BnS should centralize on a project and move to a superior version.

[Ballistic]

I'd also like to point out that AoS was designed around being fairly open in the sense of unofficial open-sourced servers and modding capabilities, so there's no such thing as going "against AoS".

I agree with this. Although I'm not a fan of arena, forcing people to abandon the gamemode is pretty stupid. It seems like some people have forgotten that this game wasn't just made to be played in a WWI/WWII style. We're able to make any type of mods and scripts for the game. I think one of the intents for AoS was to allow the community to modify the game into how they wanted it. There's no wrong into making Arena.
Although it was a dick move to make the gamemode

I definitely agree with this. The main reason that this whole thing spiraled into a mess was because 0.75 is the absolute worst version of AoS ever conceived (1.0 isn't AoS). The lack of anything done about this has caused many of the revered players to storm out in frustration, and has, in turn, caused the game to slowly decompose into a cheap CoD for the BR's due to it's ability to be custom. I hate to jump on to this train, but we REALLY need 0.76 to become the main version, as it truly is far superior. Openspades has helped with this, but that's just one of about a half dozen of ways to go. Going to what Reki said somewhere made me think that BnS needs to get a group together to do some beautiful alternative and then officially endorse it.

TL:DR

BnS should centralize on a project and move to a superior version.

BnS needs a single, centralized group to work on a

We could move the popular servers over to 0.76. The players who then normally play 0.75 will barely notice it because they won't notice the small 0.76 sign. Then when they join the game, the notice how much better it is and stick with it. <--- I wish it would be that easy...

[TheGreatestDest]

oh dear lord. It's this argument again.

Calm down... you can't make people play what you want them to play. If they want to play arena, let them play arena. If you don't want to play arena, don't play arena, it's that easy.

Now this is both wrong and right...
What I see going wrong with the game's Arena community now is that they're playing a game that has many more game modes than just that Arena/TDM stuff that they're used to.

Don't get where I'm coming from? The annoying BRs/COD players who originally start off in Arena may eventually find out that there's more gamemodes out there that aren't taken from COD.

Then comes the next annoying phase: they move to these gamemodes (which most of the old community play) without knowing how to do anything that doesn't involve camping/SMG/grenade spamming/rushing like they did in Arena.

This is where the death of the game comes into play: them all going on with their old rushing ways will drive the experienced players away, and the game will become a big clusterfuck of morons if nothing is done, which will make it even more repulsive.

The way it is now, Arena is both a push-and-pull factor; it pulls in more of the idiots, and in turn pushes away many of the people who are still trying to get fun out of the game.

What are we supposed to do? Go to all the arena servers and tell everyone to "fuck off"? If we close the arena servers we'll lose many players.

Many players who will eventually turn the game to shit.

Your attitude is that of a 12 year old COD player. Ever noticed that? So don't be telling us what to do if you can't get your own shit right.

lol

BnS needs a single, centralized group to work on a

THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!

[Priok]

I think the best way to fix the problem is just host a server that has the old game modes and good maps. I don't like most of the maps either, but I guess it is just what most of the community likes now, so I think that if people hosted servers with larger maps, people would play those more eventually. I don't think that people who only play arena would be unable to play on the old maps either, when AoS was new, nobody had played it before, and it was not difficult to get used to it. people need to realize that AoS isn't a complicated game at all, and there's nothing wrong with that