We have become what we hated the most

The original, free Ace of Spades game powered by the Voxlap engine. Known as “Classic,” 0.75, 0.76, and all 0.x versions. Created by Ben Aksoy.
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ReubenMcHawk
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Vezok wrote:
Granny wrote:
Well, this argument is fascinating so far. I'm sure that the name-calling and pointless debate exhibited here will truly bring back AoS from its death. Or were we arguing about that too?

inb4 "screw off"
If by "name-calling" and "pointless debate" you mean Reuben exhibiting superior logic, then yes.
^

Also yeah, the argument actually is about AoS' alleged death.
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ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Nah, he was just making a statement. You then got defensive, questioned his right to post here, and now you're using the good old "you're just a troll" cop-out. Nice one.
He didn't make that post because he wanted to make a point obviously. Even the sentence structure points to him trying to troll/flame or something. And how is that copping-out? Again, re-evaluate your wording.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Yeah, you made some mods for OpenSpades. That barely contributes to the game's growth in the grand scheme of things, and if anything you're just turning your words into a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you care about the whole game, maybe try and make some mods for the Voxlap version?
Do you see how many mods there are for the Voxlap version? Then check the number of mods for the OpenSpades version. And tell me to go make mods for the Voxlap version again. >_> And the self-fulfilling prophecy part needs to be re-evaluated, I understand what you are trying to say, but you are making it much more dramatic than needs be. This is like your 3rd time doing that.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
That's all you've been doing. Re-read your own posts and try reading them from the perspective of someone else who's not 100% assured that your word is law.
So by me trying to prove a point, and you trying to shoot it down/questioning it, and be trying to, I am saying my word is law. Nice logic. Besides, in the future, when someone is making a point, throwing in the little words you do like "melodramatic", and words with negative connotations attached, 9/10 they won't be willing to listen to you, just saying, they will just fight back.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Like I said above, you have to back up your statements with facts and proof. That's just how it works, for everything.
Facepalm. Look around. And it didn't seem that way actually, really did seem like a shot in the dark.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Well, you're right, it's not really your responsibility, I was just assuming you wanted people to actually believe you. And yeah, because people got bored and left. Likewise, more people came here to play. Can you think of any game that never dropped off after an amount of time, and just kept getting more and more people until the end of time?
This is true to a certain extent, but you have to realize that this isn't a game still in dev, it's a side community for a game that has been wrecked. We cannot do anything with the version we have... hey, I think that loops into my original point!
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
And there's that again. "Arena isn't REAL AoS hurr" Says who? It's the game, people enjoy it, and nobody's forcing you to play it. And yeah, again, people got bored of the game. That happens with every single game. Also a year isn't really that long, some people have been here for nearly three years and they're not bored of the game..
Look at the quotes, I used that because those aren't vets, and plenty of the commmunity doesn't think they should be here. I could care less.
Ill do the others later, need to catch my bus!
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
This entire thread has been you trying to force some doomsday shit down our throat. And what does that even mean, my "don't care" attitude?
I'm pretty sure I can correct this with quotes. I have said I that millions of times by now, I wasn't shoving anything down anyone's throat. Just making a point. And I was making a point, because of your weird wording.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Oh, also your entire post reeks of adorable little passive-aggressive jabs at me and some self-imagined level of superiority, might wanna check that before you hit Reply again.
Sounds like you were talking about yourself tbfh.
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The death of Goon Haven maps (spawncamping blue from their big cube was SO CASH) and no fun gamemode servers are the reason I temporarily left
Nobody visits the servers with fun gamemodes and I barely see any new maps
It doesn't feel the same way as it did back when I played it the first time when AoS was 0.36, capping the intel is pointless, SMG and shotgun killed the feels, and 70% of our population are kids whose parents won't let them play violent games and BRs
I hope we can unofficially update AoS through OpenSpades, we really need it
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Arkger wrote:
He didn't make that post because he wanted to make a point obviously. Even the sentence structure points to him trying to troll/flame or something. And how is that copping-out? Again, re-evaluate your wording.
cop-out also cop·out (kpout)
n. Slang
1. A failure to fulfill a commitment or responsibility or to face a difficulty squarely.
2. A person who fails to fulfill a commitment or responsibility.
3. An excuse for inaction or evasion.

Sounds about right.
Do you see how many mods there are for the Voxlap version? Then check the number of mods for the OpenSpades version. And tell me to go make mods for the Voxlap version again. >_> And the self-fulfilling prophecy part needs to be re-evaluated, I understand what you are trying to say, but you are making it much more dramatic than needs be. This is like your 3rd time doing that.
You keep talking to me like you're my superior, like you're my teacher or something, and I find that just adorable. And you thinking you have room to call other people overly dramatic, that's priceless.
So by me trying to prove a point, and you trying to shoot it down/questioning it, and be trying to, I am saying my word is law. Nice logic. Besides, in the future, when someone is making a point, throwing in the little words you do like "melodramatic", and words with negative connotations attached, 9/10 they won't be willing to listen to you, just saying, they will just fight back.
Then they're as stupid as you are. And yeah, when you don't actually respond to criticism and just keep repeating the same thing over and over, that is sort of insisting that you're not open for critique. I'm sorry that I use big words, I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.
Facepalm. Look around. And it didn't seem that way actually, really did seem like a shot in the dark.
Through all the condescension, you actually haven't backed anything up, no.
This is true to a certain extent, but you have to realize that this isn't a game still in dev, it's a side community for a game that has been wrecked. We cannot do anything with the version we have... hey, I think that loops into my original point!
Never claimed we could.
Look at the quotes, I used that because those aren't vets, and plenty of the commmunity doesn't think they should be here. I could care less.
Well, who cares? Nobody in the community has any right to say anyone else shouldn't be here, save for the staff. They can wish that someone would fuck off, much like I am right now, but it doesn't matter. And yeah, you've been around for a year, tops. Why are you community spokesperson again?
I'm pretty sure I can correct this with quotes. I have said I that millions of times by now, I wasn't shoving anything down anyone's throat. Just making a point. And I was making a point, because of your weird wording.
Yet when someone tries to refute that point, you take it oh-so-personally.
Sounds like you were talking about yourself tbfh.
"no u"

Really? Come on. You can do better than that.
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So much irony and hypocrisy. Just so much. Everywhere.
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the "arguments" you guys are having are really beneficial to the game and the community -.-
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ReubenMcHawk wrote:
cop-out also cop·out (kpout)
n. Slang
1. A failure to fulfill a commitment or responsibility or to face a difficulty squarely.
2. A person who fails to fulfill a commitment or responsibility.
3. An excuse for inaction or evasion.

Sounds about right.
So me responding to something attempting to flame me is a cop-out. Lovely logic there.

ReubenMcHawk wrote:
You keep talking to me like you're my superior, like you're my teacher or something, and I find that just adorable. And you thinking you have room to call other people overly dramatic, that's priceless.
Like I'm your superior? Now where would you get that? Maybe it was you misinterpreting... again. AS for the overly dramatic part, you are trying to push something I addressed maybe 2 or 3 posts ago? Cmon, get something better will ya? This is getting a bit too easy.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Then they're as stupid as you are. And yeah, when you don't actually respond to criticism and just keep repeating the same thing over and over, that is sort of insisting that you're not open for critique. I'm sorry that I use big words, I'll try to dumb it down for you in the future.
Wat.
ok firstly, who in this world responds to negativity? The fact that you called me stupid kinda isn't helping anything. If you can show me someone who responds to negativity such as yours, I'll show you a flying pig. And for the last sentence... wat. This paragraoh of yours had some pokes in it, but all of them just made you look bad.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Through all the condescension, you actually haven't backed anything up, no.
This. This is like me saying, "Jdrew has said some crazy things" And you saying, BACK IT UP!

We both know that this is true, and there is no need for me to find these things. It's just common knowledge.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Never claimed we could.
Then why talk about the game coming back when there is nothing for it to come back to? In an exagerrated sense, for that case.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Well, who cares? Nobody in the community has any right to say anyone else shouldn't be here, save for the staff. They can wish that someone would fuck off, much like I am right now, but it doesn't matter. And yeah, you've been around for a year, tops. Why are you community spokesperson again?
I'm saying that we have lost vets, that was my point. And I too wish someone could fuck off as well, :).
Who said im community spokesperson? Where did you get this? Something tells me someone has been wording wrong again... I speak only for myself, because this is a kind of radical idea, even I know that. In fact, after hearing what dan has had to say, I want to see their solution first, as it's bound to happen quicker, and the all-knowing dan and stack can do things we cannot.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Yet when someone tries to refute that point, you take it oh-so-personally.
Another poke at me. You are getting worse at it.
ReubenMcHawk wrote:
"no u"

Really? Come on. You can do better than that.
no u


BACK ON TOPIC:
The only plausible way that can happen overnight to attempt to fix things up is to attempt to make a server of the week sorta thing, so we can all vote on a certain server to be featured everywhere. I am planning to launch my own server actually, prices aren't too bad for some hosting. I'll try maybe 2 months or something. I was hoping it could get featured, and include stuff you guys would like to use. Maybe Rifleonly.py? MGs? WWI/II maps? I don't know, I just want to see what the community wants. :)
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I'm seriously starting to think that this thread needs to be locked
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stop respoding to eachother and just hate eachother silently or move it to IRC
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I wasn't aware you had authority here
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Zekamalikyd wrote:
stop respoding to eachother and just hate eachother silently or move it to IRC
Yeah, you're right. I'll stop.
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EldredChandler wrote:
I wasn't aware you had authority here
i don't, i'm just preventing this from turning into a giant discussion between both of them to figure out which one has the reason, when none of them do.
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That's not what the discussion is about at all
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then please enlighten me.
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First off, 'which one has the reason' isn't a proper phrase. Basically the argument is over the topic of AoS dying and if an individual is helping or hurting the situation.
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