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ZaPhobos
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12/7/2013
Some of my earlier drawings.
Some of my earlier drawings.
I hate you all.
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ZaPhobos
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We have arguments over whether or not love is the better option or independence. One may or may not last. One may or may not backstab you. One may or may not be more enriching.
God mah heart.
>Him
>>Me
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>How does Hanako go about becoming independent
I don't get it..
Did I not help at all?
>>5:29pm
Have you learned nothing
>5:29pm
I have
But in your opinion
Is it better to let her become independent
Or create the relationship
I think the relationship
For becoming independent doesn't help in the end if nobody is around.
>>5:31pm
She grows more as a person.
She learned to branch out, make friends.
>5:31pm
But still
>>5:31pm
Be less sad, learn more about others.
There's a plus and minus to everything.
>5:31pm
Can't she do that with Hisao?
>>5:31pm
Yes and no...
>5:32pm
She's bound to improve after the fact
She has this newfound courage in act 4
>>5:32pm
But, we can keep living our fantasies of them having a happy life together.
Or.
We can see how she changes immediately.
There's two sides to the sword.
>5:33pm
But even with the changes we have no idea if they stick
>>5:33pm
It's a double edged blade.
>5:33pm
Take into consideration these people are more understanding
While when she leaves it all goes down hill
>>5:33pm
We'll never know, man. Her friends will understand anybody, truly.
Eh...
>5:33pm
But with Hisao after the fact, she doesn't have to be alone
>>5:34pm
We'll never truly understand anybody in this thing,
We'll never truly know the future.
>5:34pm
But I understand a bit
>>5:34pm
We'll never know if she decides to depend on him.
>5:34pm
I'm attentive and have pieced her together
>>5:34pm
Or if he still depends on her.
>5:34pm
No.
>>5:34pm
Remember. Hisao needs her as much as she needs him.
>5:34pm
We know she probably doesn't
But in another way
>>5:35pm
They need EACHOTHER. They are less without.
>5:35pm
Instead of depending on him she simply stays with him
They depend on eachother
But Hanako wants a more equal relationship
Where she doesn't depend it is babied
Or*
But we know for a fact they stay together
>>5:36pm
And in their relationship she doesn't depend on him as protection from the bad things, she knows he truly loves her.
And that's what counted for her.
>5:37pm
I'm ready to defend my side if you attack good sir.
Indeed
>>5:37pm
I'm not making an attack. I'm weighing the differences.
>5:37pm
But I strongly believe that she benefits more with his relationship
Even if she makes friends, they are no different that what Misha and Shizune are to Hisao
>>5:38pm
As do I, however...
>5:38pm
Nothing conquers love [ZaPhobos]
All Otaku know that
She found something with Hisao that could NEVER be taken away
Which is important, for all her life things were taken from her
>>5:39pm
However, good sire, let's look at what happens if she does indeed become more independent.
Friends, more relationships, nobody will need to protect her.
>5:39pm
No because I don't want to think of her not being with Hisao haha
Wrong
They do
She's still fragile
Just because they like her doesn't mean others so
Do*
Take into consideration the outside world
>>5:40pm
There's your fault - even you're starting to say she's still fragile.
>5:40pm
She has one year before it's laid on her
No not like that
>>5:41pm
Why would you feel like that? She doesn't want that.
>5:41pm
She's still aware if her scars
And knows others judge get
Her*
Of*
>>5:41pm
She'll know that with feminism she has the power to have other not judge her by scars, but by actions,
>5:41pm
[ZaPhobos], stopppp looking at that side
>>5:42pm
She would be empowered by her independence"
>5:42pm
Yes I know it's good to be independent
But
We can successfully conclude that with Hisao she I better off
Nobody else understands her as much
Is*
>>5:42pm
Alright, no more iPad typing, let's bring this on my desktop, mothafucka.
>5:43pm
[ZaPhobos] please.
Let's just settle this
>>5:43pm
We both know that their loving relationship is by-far more enriching than any independence could be.
Hower.
*However.
>5:43pm
Yes
That's all I'm trying to say
>>5:43pm
By being independent she gains all of the things she didn't have before.
And nobody would judge her.
>5:44pm
That the relationship if better than no relationship
>>5:44pm
They would look past the scars, to what she actually does.
>5:44pm
But she will gain that with the relationship
>>5:44pm
She's even traveling.
She's seeing the world, [Anonymous]!
>5:44pm
I know
She would with him too
She shows this in the final of Act 4
I'm sorry
I'm bringing to feel train to win my argument
>>5:45pm
We do not operate with Psueudoscience.
We argue with facts.
>5:45pm
She shows improving signs of independence during act 4 scars
She independently meets Hisao at the park
She independently kisses him
>>5:46pm
God damnit [Anonymous] you've brought the feel train in this.
>5:46pm
She independently expresses her past and feelings of their relationship
Without his help
She shows signs if independence
Of*
>>5:47pm
We can both agree that the relationship was still the best way to go.
>5:48pm
So we can conclude that she will become more independent even with him
But with his support it will progress further
"I know you can do things, I believe in you"
She loves him and can stretch further with his help
Exactly what she wants! She wants to prove that she can be equal
Boom
Argument won
>>5:49pm
The progression is much faster on the Lilly route.
>>5:49pm
[ZaPhobos]
You can't back that up
>>5:50pm
As he develops a relationship with Lilly, Hanako realizes that she needs to move on as well/
>5:50pm
It starts earlier on her route
But you never see past act 4
So who's to say it didn't move as fast
She needed a push
>>5:50pm
Act 4 is just after Lilly moves away the first time.
>5:50pm
And she got that push right as it ended
I mean Hanako act 4
>>5:51pm
Even by then, Hanako had already made more friends as Lilly left the first time.
>5:51pm
So it's irrelevent how fast she improved
This is about her improving in general
>5:51pm
Faster improvement means more improvement further on.
>5:52pm
We can't argue time because it doesnt matter
>>5:52pm
She already branches out earlier with Lilly.
>5:52pm
No exactly
Not*
>>5:52pm
She was by-far already progressing much more.
>5:52pm
She can only improve so far with friendship
With a relationship it can branch further
>>5:52pm
And then she learns to be on her own again, as before.
She would meet other peoeple.
>5:53pm
It doesn't matter though
She progresses far in one day
As I've proven
>>5:53pm
Of course it matters, her independence is what would make her a better person as a whole!
Even if she never depended on Hisao, she would still have that vice in the relationship where she's still afraid to lose him and let go.
If you will excuse me, have some fried chicken to eat.
*I have
~~~Let me take this out of context - I'm half black~~~
>5:55pm
[ZaPhobos] we can agree that she would progress just as far
Even farther
There Is no point in arguing it
It just depresses me because it makes me feel that I made the wrong choice
But I didn't because the effects are the same and greater
>6:09pm
We can conclude that the relationship is the best way to go, for it benefits a lot more. Hopefully I can find closure now
And we both want whats best for her, independence is important, but she can get it with Hisao as well, the ability to talk to people better. The proof is in Act 4 scars
Good talk though, I'll be back soon my friend.
God mah heart.
>Him
>>Me
~~
>How does Hanako go about becoming independent
I don't get it..
Did I not help at all?
>>5:29pm
Have you learned nothing
>5:29pm
I have
But in your opinion
Is it better to let her become independent
Or create the relationship
I think the relationship
For becoming independent doesn't help in the end if nobody is around.
>>5:31pm
She grows more as a person.
She learned to branch out, make friends.
>5:31pm
But still
>>5:31pm
Be less sad, learn more about others.
There's a plus and minus to everything.
>5:31pm
Can't she do that with Hisao?
>>5:31pm
Yes and no...
>5:32pm
She's bound to improve after the fact
She has this newfound courage in act 4
>>5:32pm
But, we can keep living our fantasies of them having a happy life together.
Or.
We can see how she changes immediately.
There's two sides to the sword.
>5:33pm
But even with the changes we have no idea if they stick
>>5:33pm
It's a double edged blade.
>5:33pm
Take into consideration these people are more understanding
While when she leaves it all goes down hill
>>5:33pm
We'll never know, man. Her friends will understand anybody, truly.
Eh...
>5:33pm
But with Hisao after the fact, she doesn't have to be alone
>>5:34pm
We'll never truly understand anybody in this thing,
We'll never truly know the future.
>5:34pm
But I understand a bit
>>5:34pm
We'll never know if she decides to depend on him.
>5:34pm
I'm attentive and have pieced her together
>>5:34pm
Or if he still depends on her.
>5:34pm
No.
>>5:34pm
Remember. Hisao needs her as much as she needs him.
>5:34pm
We know she probably doesn't
But in another way
>>5:35pm
They need EACHOTHER. They are less without.
>5:35pm
Instead of depending on him she simply stays with him
They depend on eachother
But Hanako wants a more equal relationship
Where she doesn't depend it is babied
Or*
But we know for a fact they stay together
>>5:36pm
And in their relationship she doesn't depend on him as protection from the bad things, she knows he truly loves her.
And that's what counted for her.
>5:37pm
I'm ready to defend my side if you attack good sir.
Indeed
>>5:37pm
I'm not making an attack. I'm weighing the differences.
>5:37pm
But I strongly believe that she benefits more with his relationship
Even if she makes friends, they are no different that what Misha and Shizune are to Hisao
>>5:38pm
As do I, however...
>5:38pm
Nothing conquers love [ZaPhobos]
All Otaku know that
She found something with Hisao that could NEVER be taken away
Which is important, for all her life things were taken from her
>>5:39pm
However, good sire, let's look at what happens if she does indeed become more independent.
Friends, more relationships, nobody will need to protect her.
>5:39pm
No because I don't want to think of her not being with Hisao haha
Wrong
They do
She's still fragile
Just because they like her doesn't mean others so
Do*
Take into consideration the outside world
>>5:40pm
There's your fault - even you're starting to say she's still fragile.
>5:40pm
She has one year before it's laid on her
No not like that
>>5:41pm
Why would you feel like that? She doesn't want that.
>5:41pm
She's still aware if her scars
And knows others judge get
Her*
Of*
>>5:41pm
She'll know that with feminism she has the power to have other not judge her by scars, but by actions,
>5:41pm
[ZaPhobos], stopppp looking at that side
>>5:42pm
She would be empowered by her independence"
>5:42pm
Yes I know it's good to be independent
But
We can successfully conclude that with Hisao she I better off
Nobody else understands her as much
Is*
>>5:42pm
Alright, no more iPad typing, let's bring this on my desktop, mothafucka.
>5:43pm
[ZaPhobos] please.
Let's just settle this
>>5:43pm
We both know that their loving relationship is by-far more enriching than any independence could be.
Hower.
*However.
>5:43pm
Yes
That's all I'm trying to say
>>5:43pm
By being independent she gains all of the things she didn't have before.
And nobody would judge her.
>5:44pm
That the relationship if better than no relationship
>>5:44pm
They would look past the scars, to what she actually does.
>5:44pm
But she will gain that with the relationship
>>5:44pm
She's even traveling.
She's seeing the world, [Anonymous]!
>5:44pm
I know
She would with him too
She shows this in the final of Act 4
I'm sorry
I'm bringing to feel train to win my argument
>>5:45pm
We do not operate with Psueudoscience.
We argue with facts.
>5:45pm
She shows improving signs of independence during act 4 scars
She independently meets Hisao at the park
She independently kisses him
>>5:46pm
God damnit [Anonymous] you've brought the feel train in this.
>5:46pm
She independently expresses her past and feelings of their relationship
Without his help
She shows signs if independence
Of*
>>5:47pm
We can both agree that the relationship was still the best way to go.
>5:48pm
So we can conclude that she will become more independent even with him
But with his support it will progress further
"I know you can do things, I believe in you"
She loves him and can stretch further with his help
Exactly what she wants! She wants to prove that she can be equal
Boom
Argument won
>>5:49pm
The progression is much faster on the Lilly route.
>>5:49pm
[ZaPhobos]
You can't back that up
>>5:50pm
As he develops a relationship with Lilly, Hanako realizes that she needs to move on as well/
>5:50pm
It starts earlier on her route
But you never see past act 4
So who's to say it didn't move as fast
She needed a push
>>5:50pm
Act 4 is just after Lilly moves away the first time.
>5:50pm
And she got that push right as it ended
I mean Hanako act 4
>>5:51pm
Even by then, Hanako had already made more friends as Lilly left the first time.
>5:51pm
So it's irrelevent how fast she improved
This is about her improving in general
>5:51pm
Faster improvement means more improvement further on.
>5:52pm
We can't argue time because it doesnt matter
>>5:52pm
She already branches out earlier with Lilly.
>5:52pm
No exactly
Not*
>>5:52pm
She was by-far already progressing much more.
>5:52pm
She can only improve so far with friendship
With a relationship it can branch further
>>5:52pm
And then she learns to be on her own again, as before.
She would meet other peoeple.
>5:53pm
It doesn't matter though
She progresses far in one day
As I've proven
>>5:53pm
Of course it matters, her independence is what would make her a better person as a whole!
Even if she never depended on Hisao, she would still have that vice in the relationship where she's still afraid to lose him and let go.
If you will excuse me, have some fried chicken to eat.
*I have
~~~Let me take this out of context - I'm half black~~~
>5:55pm
[ZaPhobos] we can agree that she would progress just as far
Even farther
There Is no point in arguing it
It just depresses me because it makes me feel that I made the wrong choice
But I didn't because the effects are the same and greater
>6:09pm
We can conclude that the relationship is the best way to go, for it benefits a lot more. Hopefully I can find closure now
And we both want whats best for her, independence is important, but she can get it with Hisao as well, the ability to talk to people better. The proof is in Act 4 scars
Good talk though, I'll be back soon my friend.
I hate you all.
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CommieBuffalo
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I don't quite understand but that sounds deep.
why are you even reading this
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ZaPhobos
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CommieBuffalo wrote:I don't quite understand but that sounds deep.Two words - Katawa Shoujo
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i bet you cried
<podbiel> zeka did nothing wrong
Shia LaBeouf wrote:hahaha i fucking love dick holy shit stuff it in every hole of mine
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ZaPhobos
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Zekamalikyd wrote:i bet you criedYOU'RE FUCKING RIGHT I DID.
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DrSandwich
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Hanako is not best waifu.
She is best Katawa though.
Hanako's route was the most feely
She is best Katawa though.
Hanako's route was the most feely
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ZaPhobos
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DrSandwich wrote:Hanako is not best waifu.Blake Belladonna
-I would find the relation ship a tad volatile, or dampened. Not sure which.
She is best Katawa though.
-True dat
Hanako's route was the most feely
- I only got sad feels. rin gave me sad, mad, and confused feels all at the same time.
I hate you all.
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ZaPhobos
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12/20/2013 is up. Also avatar changes yet again.
I hate you all.
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scrawl
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ZaPhobos wrote:12/20/2013 is up. Also avatar changes yet again.Cool poem, Cool avatar.
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ZaPhobos
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Goddamnit, Will.
Eternal damnation upon your soul.
Eternal damnation upon your soul.
I hate you all.
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ZaPhobos
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Hopefully enough people care to post that this section is removed. Alternatively they could all be reported but who am I to stop the quote fun?
I hate you all.
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Wow. This is horrible.
Stop breaking threads.
Stop breaking threads.
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