Weapon suggestion thread

[bullets]

Pistol, semi or auto as secondary, would be 'very nice' - borat, I recommend a pistol like a .57 for semi and a glock for full auto. I'd also be happy if I could model these :D

Seriously READ vvvvvv

Please, no fucking two pistols. One with medium damage is enough, think M1911. Adding one automatic pistol and a revolver just over-complicates stuff.

:P I think 2 would be 'very nice' but 1 would also be 'very nice'.

[Commando_Ghost]

Hmm... How about :

Category 1 (Close Quarters)

-SMG
-Shotgun


Category 2 (Med-Long Range)

-AR
-LMG

Category 3 (Long Range)

-Bolt Action Rifle
-Semi Rifle


LMG Notes : When you carry the LMG you can't walk and shoot (For example look at the mechanics of Heroes & Generals' LMGs, it also prevents any run n' gun) you can only fire it while you're sneaking, crouching, proned or just standing still. I think this is a good idea so people won't get pissy about LMGs being OP & firing an LMG while walking is really absurd unless you're Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson

[Zekamalikyd]

unless you're Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson

what about rambo

[Commando_Ghost]

unless you're Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson

what about rambo

1 - It's overrated in some cases

2 - Dwayne seems to be the recent aktor I've seen shooting an LMG while walking around explosions in a movie (GI Joe : Retaliation)

[CommieBuffalo]

I think that instead of classifying weapons as close-range, medium-range and etc we should arrange them as either offensive or defensive weapons.
First, do away with the SMG. The AR is an automatic weapon already, and the Shotgun is a great close-quarters weapon.

The offensive weapons first. They are:
Semi-automatic Rifle: Similar to the one now. Medium to long range engagements. Complements the AR with fire support.
AR: Front-line weapon, automatic. Close to medium range engagements.

Defensive weapons. Meant to be used when your team is getting attacked and needs to mount a defensive line. They are:
LMG: Automatic, non-mobile fire support weapon. Meant to be mounted in gun emplacements and used to defend a building or give fire support.
Shotgun: Used for close-quarters defense, when the enemy has breached a building already. Can also be used offensively on some kind of infiltration role.

There is also the pistol, that would be used as the backup weapon for a soldier with a Rocket Launcher.

[bullets]

soldier with a Rocket Launcher.

I don't want another AoS 1.0 :(

[Arkger]

soldier with a Rocket Launcher.

I don't want another AoS 1.0 :(

I hope and pray its not that bad... D:

But I don't think it will get to that level... its essentially a flying grenade, with prob very low ammo.

[Zekamalikyd]

why does he need to have a rocket launcher?
give him a MGL (mutiple grenade launcher)

[Articsledder]

I feel like having a LMG and an assault rifle is kind of pointless, like having an SMG and shotgun. LMG should be some kind of static Machinegun, which most of you guys are giving it the stats of, just misnaming it.

Honestly I feel having both an Assault Rifle and the semi is kind of pointless as well, were kind of mixing lots of weapons that were never really used in the same era together.

[tungdil]

Why should we remove something we already have ? (smg)
Imo, smg - lmg would better than lmg - assault rifle because who would take a lmg if he could take a ar ??

The choice between lmg and smg would be more usefull because you have to consider the situation you are in at the moment. You can't really make something wrong by choosing the ar because there aren't big disadvantages of it.

I fear if we give the player the possibility of an ar, EVERYONE will use it in the end.

[CommieBuffalo]

Why should we remove something we already have ? (smg)
Imo, smg - lmg would better than lmg - assault rifle because who would take a lmg if he could take a ar ??

The choice between lmg and smg would be more usefull because you have to consider the situation you are in at the moment. You can't really make something wrong by choosing the ar because there aren't big disadvantages of it.

I fear if we give the player the possibility of an ar, EVERYONE will use it in the end.

wat

[Arkger]

Why should we remove something we already have ? (smg)
Imo, smg - lmg would better than lmg - assault rifle because who would take a lmg if he could take a ar ??

The choice between lmg and smg would be more usefull because you have to consider the situation you are in at the moment. You can't really make something wrong by choosing the ar because there aren't big disadvantages of it.

I fear if we give the player the possibility of an ar, EVERYONE will use it in the end.

Ok, let's break this down.

LMGs have already been said to be a defensive weapon. No one will pick it obviously if they were going on the attack. I agree with it giving you slowing effects, or being absurdly inaccurate without the use of the bipod.

SMGs are fast and weak, LMGs are apparently slow and strong (still kinda disagree with this). They aren't really in the same category, as I said before, one is offensive and one is defensive.

You are somewhat right about the AR, but honestly, LMG will rule defensive, Rifles will rule long range, and SMGs and shotguns will rule CQC. So the only valid option for this is medium range, and it can't really go onto any other gun's purpose properly. SMGs will kill it in CQC (higher fire rate), LMGs are better for cover and defense (Large Mag), and it obviously cannot be used for sniping. No one will choose it if they have a certain job they want to do, it'll turn into a jack of all trades weapon.

So the AR will be fine.

[CommieBuffalo]

Why should we remove something we already have ? (smg)
Imo, smg - lmg would better than lmg - assault rifle because who would take a lmg if he could take a ar ??

The choice between lmg and smg would be more usefull because you have to consider the situation you are in at the moment. You can't really make something wrong by choosing the ar because there aren't big disadvantages of it.

I fear if we give the player the possibility of an ar, EVERYONE will use it in the end.

Ok, let's break this down.

LMGs have already been said to be a defensive weapon. No one will pick it obviously if they were going on the attack. I agree with it giving you slowing effects, or being absurdly inaccurate without the use of the bipod.

SMGs are fast and weak, LMGs are apparently slow and strong (still kinda disagree with this). They aren't really in the same category, as I said before, one is offensive and one is defensive.

You are somewhat right about the AR, but honestly, LMG will rule defensive, Rifles will rule long range, and SMGs and shotguns will rule CQC. So the only valid option for this is medium range, and it can't really go onto any other gun's purpose properly. SMGs will kill it in CQC (higher fire rate), LMGs are better for cover and defense (Large Mag), and it obviously cannot be used for sniping. No one will choose it if they have a certain job they want to do, it'll turn into a jack of all trades weapon.

So the AR will be fine.

This is exactly the kind of thing I don't like - Jacks of all trades.

[tungdil]

Why should we remove something we already have ? (smg)
Imo, smg - lmg would better than lmg - assault rifle because who would take a lmg if he could take a ar ??

The choice between lmg and smg would be more usefull because you have to consider the situation you are in at the moment. You can't really make something wrong by choosing the ar because there aren't big disadvantages of it.

I fear if we give the player the possibility of an ar, EVERYONE will use it in the end.

Ok, let's break this down.

LMGs have already been said to be a defensive weapon. No one will pick it obviously if they were going on the attack. I agree with it giving you slowing effects, or being absurdly inaccurate without the use of the bipod.

SMGs are fast and weak, LMGs are apparently slow and strong (still kinda disagree with this). They aren't really in the same category, as I said before, one is offensive and one is defensive.

You are somewhat right about the AR, but honestly, LMG will rule defensive, Rifles will rule long range, and SMGs and shotguns will rule CQC. So the only valid option for this is medium range, and it can't really go onto any other gun's purpose properly. SMGs will kill it in CQC (higher fire rate), LMGs are better for cover and defense (Large Mag), and it obviously cannot be used for sniping. No one will choose it if they have a certain job they want to do, it'll turn into a jack of all trades weapon.

So the AR will be fine.

This is exactly the kind of thing I don't like - Jacks of all trades.

wat.

[CommieBuffalo]

Ok, let's break this down.

LMGs have already been said to be a defensive weapon. No one will pick it obviously if they were going on the attack. I agree with it giving you slowing effects, or being absurdly inaccurate without the use of the bipod.

SMGs are fast and weak, LMGs are apparently slow and strong (still kinda disagree with this). They aren't really in the same category, as I said before, one is offensive and one is defensive.

You are somewhat right about the AR, but honestly, LMG will rule defensive, Rifles will rule long range, and SMGs and shotguns will rule CQC. So the only valid option for this is medium range, and it can't really go onto any other gun's purpose properly. SMGs will kill it in CQC (higher fire rate), LMGs are better for cover and defense (Large Mag), and it obviously cannot be used for sniping. No one will choose it if they have a certain job they want to do, it'll turn into a jack of all trades weapon.

So the AR will be fine.

This is exactly the kind of thing I don't like - Jacks of all trades.

wat.

A Jack of all trades is going to receive a lot more attention by players in all skill levels exactly because it can do everything, just not as good as some other weapon. Just go and check BF3: you wouldn't say the M16A3 is amazing just by looking at stats, but what made it extremely overused is that it could be used in any scenario without much loss. It could be outgunned at long range by a SCAR-L or at close range by a AEK-971, but you still had some assurance that you were going to win the engagement, while a direct AEK vs SCAR-L would see one of these exterminated by the other, depending on the scenario. THe same didn't happen with the M16A3.
Now, going back to AoS, I think the AR, if introduced, should serve as a close to medium range offensive weapon. It would be the front line weapon, receiving support from Semi-automatic Rifles at medium and long ranges.