We have become what we hated the most

[dragonfree97]

Alternatively you could talk about the topic at hand instead of whether someone's grammar isn't quite up to scratch

[Somnium]

Lol point taken Dragon. I'm guilty of that. As well as he.

[Somnium]

I could go through and pick apart this. But I'll let you live in ignorance and believe in some way shape or form won. And wont critisize every post even though I could. So revel in the blissfulness of your ignorance.

You sound like you have some sort of superiority complex, so here's some advice: on the Internet, you're not better than anyone, and acting like it just makes you worse than them.

As for everyone else: nitpicking someone's grammar is the worst form of argument possible.



EDIT:

Then you have to say what game your talking about dumbass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry's_law

pretty colors!

[Somnium]

Looking down the server list all I see is a bunch of dead servers, 5 or 6 hosting Pinpoint/Hallway, a few arena/nuketown games and the odd AnticBridge. They're all awful maps, going against everything the game is supposed to be about. I've heard AoS described as a 'trench warfare simulator' - newsflash: trench warfare doesn't mean a great big gash through a pair of neon-coloured cliffs. Even the good CTF servers are now dead - Sw and Sham's rarely have more than 3 or 4 players on them if they're even on the list.

The obvious solution is to either ban arena and awful/flatmaps from showing up in the list, or weight servers playing CTF, TC, TOW, etc. higher on the list, or weight servers playing maps which are actually decent to the top of the list, so the list doesn't look like Hallway/Hallway/HallwayForts/Pinpoint2/Hallway but more like Normandie/classicgen/pyspades/marketgarden/classicgen/mesa whatever.

In addition I'd argue that the burning-water is definitely a negative aspect of the game (except where it makes sense, like on Push gamemode, which imo is meh anyway) because you're removing an enormous amount of tactical advances that can be made on the enemy, and at the same time increasing the amount of 11-year-olds who enjoy being a 1337 sniper with their SMG in D4.

Island maps which you can't tunnel under e.g. pinpoint and island are equally bad - you remove another method of assault on the enemy, encouraging the fast-paced SMG combat on the level's surface where there's no chance you'll get any kills because the 12-year-olds rip up your sniper hole with their guns in seconds. When you've got waterburn on AND no tunneling, the game becomes a terrible experience - the only way the intel's getting out of either side is if the entirety of the opposing team logs off the game. Island with waterburn on is imo the absolute worst experience of the game. Water can be okay if it works - rivers work, an archipelago works (e.g. pyspades) but a symmetrical thin island in the centre of the map does not work and ends up being very boring.

Better maps are those which are deep, little to no peripheral water (i.e. not an island map), have small structures if any (there's a really good village map which Sw plays sometimes, I forget its name but it's called something like Battlefield 1941), have varied terrain (that random1231242352345 map is good for this, plains in the middle, forest to the south and mountains to the north, and despite the fact that it's an island, it's more than 60 blocks wide and it's not symmetrical so it's actually fun to play) with lots of height differences and places to hide and explore.

People in this thread have suggested that upping the player count to 64 would be the best idea, because you can't have 32 players per side when your map is less wide than that, as well as encouraging players to play on the larger maps because there will be more people and therefore it's quicker to walk until you get to the battlefield. On the other hand you've got lag concerns, but AoS from my experience isn't particularly demanding on the old network connection and if people connect to servers in their region there shouldn't be much of a problem (i.e. I have a terrible connection but my ping is usually sub 80 on Sw). Obviously there are bandwidth concerns from the other side of the connection, but on the other hand if it costs more to host a server you're probably going to get rid of a lot of the dead servers at the bottom of the list.

On the other hand perhaps a solution is to have a server hosted by BnS which has maps chosen by veteran players with modifications made to weapon stats (Sw does this very well) which is pinned to the top of the server list, as well as putting big notices all over the server list suggesting that players update to 0.76 in several languages (En, Fr, Sp, Pr, De, It and Po probably cover just about everyone) as well as a deadline date where the 0.76 list will become the default list.

Yeah I definately agree on this. I do enjoy playing hallway. But I don't enjoy playing every game on hallway or pinpoint or those type maps. Have you tried contacting a server host? It's possible that they might do this on a dead server. To test it out. It never hurts to ask. If you want I can contact aloha and ask. They're pretty reasonable.

[ReubenMcHawk]

pretty colors!

Sounds about right.

[Somnium]

Alright so on topic for this thread now. I know everyone well 90% of this community hates 1.0 the ptp version. The 10% being those few who do play 1.0. So the only thing I do like is the graphics. I know that it goes against what AOS is about meaning 0.75 and 0.76
But would you play it if. 1.0 had in fact kept the game play of say 0.75 and 0.76 and only changed the graphics to that of 1.0
yes I know they are separate. Yes I know that this is a rogue site. But if that this could happen what would you think?

[gen]

no because its called openspades and it eats my graphic card

[Somnium]

no because its called openspades and it eats my graphic card

I meant more of an official thing. I take it "open spades" is a mod? I've seen "open spades" in the forums, as well as heard it mentioned, but haven't really looked into it. Does it require a large graphics card? Or is it still just in the early stages, requiring tune ups and bug fixes?

-Okay so I looked it up. That's not exactly what I was talking about. Although Open spades does look like it could be fun. I might have to try it out. I specifically like the cross hairs I think that is a good idea. What I was talking about is the graphics of 1.0 the ptp version. as in the same graphics. same skins for guns. and players. the 1.0 version looks to me like the blocks are almost rounded more. As well as the colors transition more evenly I think. In my opinion it looks better. Not to say that I don't like the current 0.75, 0.76 version but if there was a mod that altered the graphics of 0.75, 0.76 to look like 1.0 I think I'd try it out. And in the graphics area I mean more specifically of the entire thing. Not just terrain. Although I do like the way of the terrain. and the details that, they put in it. I have no idea if I'd enjoy it or anyone else would. But I would like to check it out.

[AssadisLove]

I have no interest in getting caught up in this argument but I will leave my own feedback. The only thing I can think of that will help the community is possibly advertising the game to audiences of games likes Red Orchestra, Arma, ect. I don't think anyone is going to actually want to play this game is pretty much on life support.

[Somnium]

I have no interest in getting caught up in this argument but I will leave my own feedback. The only thing I can think of that will help the community is possibly advertising the game to audiences of games likes Red Orchestra, Arma, ect. I don't think anyone is going to actually want to play this game is pretty much on life support.

Hmm I advertise it to my friends. But that's about it. And most everything in advertising you have to pay for.
Social media is a possibility though. Such as Facebook and post the link spread it around really. And I'm not sure but the games you mentioned Might have Facebook pages or say there site. With their permission they may allow the community to create a short section on the page for other recommended games. I mean there's always options you just have to find them. And actually do it.

[Ninja_pig_pro]

On Topic - My Graphics Card Sucks and it can't run it.

Off Topic - This is the last one unless he posts another.

Spoiler:

He dared me to make every point. And you have completely gone away from the points you do make. And have now switched to my grammar. Which is bad I agree I don't punctuate or use the correct grammar all the time. I usually just type as I go. So why is it that you have not come up with a reasonable argument to a single thing that I said in reply to your previous post everything is either insulting me or My grammar.

Ok, this one, I'll give you. I didn't see the replies and thought you just quoted me.
But here's one of the points I read that particularly caught my eye.
(If you want me to do a full one I'll do it in pm.)

Hmm obviously not since they do have players.
hmm Pretty sure that everyone here on this Forum vents about Jagex and if you want to criticize me then why don't you go ahead and search every thread and criticize all the others or not have it your way.

They have players, but compared to Build and Shoot, yes, most of the community is boycotting. I don't criticize anyone who doesn't agree if they had good reasoning. You've been talking about Jagex not having enough money and not being able to afford to change the game on the website that's pretty much anti-jagex.

Which is sad to me. And the fact that you brought in and quoted Danhezee on this.... wow. The fact is it literally wasn't even relevant to the post between me and you it's another part of this thread.

No, it's NOT. It's on the same thread if you CLICKED THE LINK.

So everything you have said had nothing to do with the previous reply.

Read the post. Also, the insults are directed to you because you're attitude is that you are far more superior then us.
Refer to ReubenMcHawk.
Also Reuben, I did it because in past experience on mumble, (Roach + Adolphus) Apparently grammar is a huge flaw. I won't pick it apart now unless it's, well, this:

one day i was going to the liabrary when i was wanting to read the newest installment of diary of a wimpy kid. i looked on the shelf and i saw that there was a new black one so i picked that one.

You've completely dismissed my answer and now switched to pointing out the grammar errors. And the simply fact that you are still pointing out which I have already made apparent. You literally commented on what I've already said. Which any kid with half a brain can do. Not that hard. So unless you go back and reply to those reply's to the comments I'm done.

Ok, I didn't know you commented in my quotes because I thought you were just quoting my post.
But you dismissed Reuben's post;
"You sound like you have some sort of superiority complex, so here's some advice: on the Internet, you're not better than anyone, and acting like it just makes you worse than them."

So to your request, I won't bring up your grammar.

And for your replies, here it is:

Huff. Grow up. Not every other post needs to have and insult. And the simple fact that in that quote it says "Yes i did make the mistake" so you commenting on the mistake after it's already been pointed out. And the fact that I admitted it still tells me that you need to grow up.

Not every post needs you to be acting like the smartest person in the world. Acting like you can pick everything apart while doing it terribly is not "growing up".

Hmm. Oh you got me mister. Good one.

"Stupid me I actually assumed that people had a brain larger than the average rock. And just in case you missed that one two. Rocks don't have brains. "
What if I answered all your quotes with comebacks you've replied to me? I won't, besides the one above, but think about it.

Huff.. It's a sad day. I asked you if you wanted to legitimately want to know why. Nothing to do with that topic even more. Completely moved away from that subject.

But it's on topic. You've been posting all your suggestions here on build and shoot when you should be posting suggestions to Jagex here : http://www.aceofspades.com/forums/forum.php

Huff considering that this was done at 4:00 a.m. I do think I have some lee way and the fact that you comment on a compliment that was half way an insult at the same time still. A period is the end of sentence. Or a complete thought usually and a couple of other things. The comma is used as a way to end two independent clause's.

Yes, but you kept using them incorrectly in the first one, and I didn't know you replied to the points in the quote.

Agin do not criticize for something you clearly do, and have admitted to before. If your going to say well I'm trying to help you not do this agin. Well then. How about fix your own issue before you go help others to fix theirs

Except I was rushing. And I said I had been rushing. If I was writing a essay, I would look over my grammar.
Also, I'm gonna touch on this slightly, if there's a red underline under your word, the spellings wrong. I can't blame you if you're on your phone, but yeah.

hmmm, well I was talking about your points.

Well then you're wrong. They weren't rushed.

[AssadisLove]

I have no interest in getting caught up in this argument but I will leave my own feedback. The only thing I can think of that will help the community is possibly advertising the game to audiences of games likes Red Orchestra, Arma, ect. I don't think anyone is going to actually want to play this game is pretty much on life support.

Hmm I advertise it to my friends. But that's about it. And most everything in advertising you have to pay for.
Social media is a possibility though. Such as Facebook and post the link spread it around really. And I'm not sure but the games you mentioned Might have Facebook pages or say there site. With their permission they may allow the community to create a short section on the page for other recommended games. I mean there's always options you just have to find them. And actually do it.

By advertise I meant more along the lines of trying to introduce it their communities. I'm not really confident about it though.

[Somnium]

I have no interest in getting caught up in this argument but I will leave my own feedback. The only thing I can think of that will help the community is possibly advertising the game to audiences of games likes Red Orchestra, Arma, ect. I don't think anyone is going to actually want to play this game is pretty much on life support.

Hmm I advertise it to my friends. But that's about it. And most everything in advertising you have to pay for.
Social media is a possibility though. Such as Facebook and post the link spread it around really. And I'm not sure but the games you mentioned Might have Facebook pages or say there site. With their permission they may allow the community to create a short section on the page for other recommended games. I mean there's always options you just have to find them. And actually do it.

By advertise I meant more along the lines of trying to introduce it their communities. I'm not really confident about it though.

Hmm. By introducing it into their communities. Do you mean by oral or by visual. I know a lot of gaming sites. Allow Indie games and different games on side panels as advertising. I mean I realize that, this would cost money. Unless we where to convince the owners to allow it free of charge. But as far as oral. I'm pretty sceptical about that. I just don't see The community as a hole actually putting forth the effort. Besides, even if they did. The trick is getting them interested in the game, as well as convincing them to actually try the game. Even then, not all of them will like/enjoy the game as we do. So if I had to guess visual advertisement would most likely be the best path to follow.

[TheVetNoob]

(I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'll just spew my idiocy around anyway, just like the rest of this thread)

Couldn't Jagex sue if we advertised? They still own the beta, and they would probably take any chance they could get to bring BnS down and force people to play 1.0

[Ninja_pig_pro]

(I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'll just spew my idiocy around anyway, just like the rest of this thread)

Couldn't Jagex sue if we advertised? They still own the beta, and they would probably take any chance they could get to bring BnS down and force people to play 1.0

If they could sue I think they probably already have done it.