Iceball Project

[HoboHob]

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command arg1 arg2 $(command2 arg1 arg2 arg3) arg4

This will use the output of command2 as arg3. Very handy.

Also, for everbody else, practice your command line skills with this online emulator I just found: http://cb.vu/ !!

Woah. Mind blown.

[Sonarpulse]

:D there's also <(comand arg arg arg) which will the output to stdin. (stout being the output that is redirected in both cases).

[GreaseMonkey]

Just a quick reminder, these are the correct capitalisations:

• Lua
• Iceball

Lua is the portuguese word for "moon". As I have said in a previous post in this thread, Lua is not a fucking acronym.

Ericson, you might want to hang out in IRC, #aos.development on QuakeNet.

Anyhow, as I have said, I don't want there to be a launcher, as I do want people to read some sort of manual which tells you how to actually play the game. However, there will probably be Windows and OSX binaries (the latter will only happen if there's an OSX dev who's willing to build stuff, as AFAIK I can't emulate or build OSX binaries).

For Linux/BSD users, it's up to your distro to actually care about assembling packages. If you're using Arch/Gentoo/FreeBSD, you'll be used to building from source so it's not an issue. (Who the hell uses pkg_add on FreeBSD anyway? Real FreeBSD users use the ports repository.)

But yeah, unlike Windows, Linux and BSD are essentially designed to make stuff easy to build. Or something like that.

CelticEnigma, we really don't want copyrighted sounds unless they're CC-3.0-BY-SA. But feel free to contribute stuff you've made from scratch.

Does anyone want to help write better docs? That will be much appreciated.
Hoping for something done with HTML and black/white .png cartoony images.

[Dzhoel]

Hows the project coming?

[BozoDel]

The one not so good thing about SDL 1.2 is that it doesn't really support many keyboards around the world...

[Triplefox]

I'm pretty sure input is solvable, it just requires getting the architecture right. There's still some ground work needed in distinguishing text entry from keys used as buttons, etc. before it can be really worked on, but I'm kind of on that right now with the GUI work.

I recommend looking at what other opensource game projects have done for IME. Wesnoth, Cube 2, Stepmania... apparently as of SDL 1.2.14 the base lib does support Windows IME messages in some fashion. There was also this project which apparently went inactive after 2007: http://sdl-im.csie.net/

If we end up rolling our own IME config we should be sure to treat layouts differently from languages.

[HoboHob]

Does anyone want to help write better docs? That will be much appreciated.
Hoping for something done with HTML and black/white .png cartoony images.

Not finished... but here you go: http://terminat.comuv.com/Docs%20HTML/index.html

Excuse my horrendous design skillz.

EDIT: What the heck is proto_main.txt. Packet definitions?

[rakiru]

To those who are complaining about the difficulty of building:
This is a project that is in development. It is in the alpha stage - it is not a final release, or even a beta release. Releasing public builds for this is pointless, other than to keep interest up and let people get an idea of how far along this is, as well as allowing people who cannot or do not want to work on the code to contribute other things, such as models, sounds or textures.

[Amadeus]

Thanks a ton. I managed to get Iceball built.

I still can't quite manage it ;_;

Building lua and Iceball doesn't work for whatever reason.

What I ended up doing (because I made numerous errors) was putting the dependency files where they were requested every time the compile failed. It took a lot of trial and error, but eventually it built without a problem.

[BozoDel]

I'm pretty sure input is solvable, it just requires getting the architecture right. There's still some ground work needed in distinguishing text entry from keys used as buttons, etc. before it can be really worked on, but I'm kind of on that right now with the GUI work.

I recommend looking at what other opensource game projects have done for IME. Wesnoth, Cube 2, Stepmania... apparently as of SDL 1.2.14 the base lib does support Windows IME messages in some fashion. There was also this project which apparently went inactive after 2007: http://sdl-im.csie.net/

If we end up rolling our own IME config we should be sure to treat layouts differently from languages.

Hm, yeah, it's doable. I mentioned it because I had to make some workarounds to make Brazilian ABNT2 and Nativo layouts work properly under DOSBox.

It's just that the DOSBox guys said it couldn't be fixed, and I had no idea if such workarounds could be done for this project...

[Sonarpulse]

I wonder if SDL 2 has any improvements in this area. SDL 2 is about to become the norm, (should already be available in most distro's repos). We should probably think about switching to it regardless.

[GreaseMonkey]

Does anyone want to help write better docs? That will be much appreciated.
Hoping for something done with HTML and black/white .png cartoony images.

Not finished... but here you go: http://terminat.comuv.com/Docs%20HTML/index.html

Excuse my horrendous design skillz.

EDIT: What the heck is proto_main.txt. Packet definitions?

The actual content does look a bit sloppy, sadly. I think we need a documentation team. Perhaps it'd be good to actually use the wiki?

proto_main.txt defines the C-side network protocol, followed by the Lua-side protocol for the base game.

[HoboHob]

Does anyone want to help write better docs? That will be much appreciated.
Hoping for something done with HTML and black/white .png cartoony images.

Not finished... but here you go: http://terminat.comuv.com/Docs%20HTML/index.html

Excuse my horrendous design skillz.

EDIT: What the heck is proto_main.txt. Packet definitions?

The actual content does look a bit sloppy, sadly. I think we need a documentation team. Perhaps it'd be good to actually use the wiki?

proto_main.txt defines the C-side network protocol, followed by the Lua-side protocol for the base game.

Using the Github wiki would probably be smart.

[TheJellySlime]

@kmaj
The only Semi thing is totally crap thats why .75 will be far better Its really stupid and fristating playing a game with one weapon , For me aos(or its copies) should have around 5 weapons a Semi , Smg , Shotgun , HMG and a Mortar.
Anyway The Iceball Devilopers should do what they think is the best (and what they want) I just said what I meant .

Back in my days, we used to have 1 weapon THE RIFLE

[BozoDel]

I wonder if SDL 2 has any improvements in this area. SDL 2 is about to become the norm, (should already be available in most distro's repos). We should probably think about switching to it regardless.

Yes, I'm almost sure SDL 2 fixes those issues. Heck, maybe even 1.3. But I didn't know it was stable already...