Iceball Project

[HoboHob]

Agh, I keep getting problems when trying to build this. Trying to find pre-built Lua libraries for Lua 5.1 was just a pain, so I decided to build it myself. Thousands of errors.

Y u no use Java?

[Sonarpulse]

Y u no use Java?

Because VM-only languages and software rendering don't mix.

You seem to know you stuff pretty well, HoboHob. Have you ever tried linux?

[HoboHob]

Y u no use Java?

Because VM-only languages and software rendering don't mix.

You seem to know you stuff pretty well, HoboHob. Have you ever tried linux?

I've tried Xubuntu (I am fairly sure my computer wouldn't run ubuntu well) and I disliked it.

[rakiru]

DEBIAN MASTER RACE

@GreaseMonkey, could we use the issue tracker on github, or even just the wiki, to create a todo list? I'm never sure what needs working on.
Also, I have my raspberry pi now, so I may look into playing with this on there at some point.

[Jdrew]

all you got to do is paste some text in a text file. I think you can manage it.

And install MinGW.

I believe he's doing this on Linux on his Raspberry Pi. Which is ARM, therefore doesn't have SSE.

If someone knows of any SIMD instructions for ARM, feel free to do an optimised render_blit_img for that.

EDIT: Pulled the SSE matrix multiply. Thanks for that.

na I got windows 7 but I am thinking of trying the pi out just to see the difference

[Amadeus]

I have absolutely no idea how to compile C on windows. I would if I was running linux, but I recently switched back to Windows 7, and I need some help. Anyone care to offer?

[Sonarpulse]

HoboHob: if you tell me what you didn't like about Xubuntu I can recommend you another distro. I currently use Ubuntu but http://xmonad.org/ and not gnome. That is super lightweight, but I can still start up gnome if I really need something. Might as well be using Debian Sid, seeing that that means I basically never use anything canonical made.

rakiru: I think the issue tracker would be best. I am in the same boat, I can visualize long term goals, I can find short term things to fix, but I don't know enough about the iceball codebase or lua to figure out how to break up those long term goals into concrete goals.

jdrew: Iceball is right in his docs. We can hack together tutorials that will constantly go out of date, or we can actually help people learn the stuff they need to help fix their own problems. Lean the principles of the command line, maybe glance over this, http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual ... troduction and all will be made clear and you will have acquired some really important skills. I'm not saying that we won't help, but there really isn't any short cuts with this stuff.

I highly recommend you try some sort of Unix (Mac OS 10.* doesn't count because the GUI stuff tries to cover up the Unix roots too much). If Pi interests you, that's great, and will get you some Unix too.

[HoboHob]

I have absolutely no idea how to compile C on windows. I would if I was running linux, but I recently switched back to Windows 7, and I need some help. Anyone care to offer?

This post does not make sense, how would one compile C?

Now if you mean you want a compiler for C on windows, or how to use a C compiler then we are getting somewhere.

@Ericson: The fact that the command line was so different from windows, I don't think you can really change how the linux shell works with a different distro.

[rakiru]

I have Debian with Cinnamon on my laptop.

Exactly Ericson, that's my issue.

[Amadeus]

I have absolutely no idea how to compile C on windows. I would if I was running linux, but I recently switched back to Windows 7, and I need some help. Anyone care to offer?

This post does not make sense, how would one compile C?

Now if you mean you want a compiler for C on windows, or how to use a C compiler then we are getting somewhere.

Well then. You would be correct. I have absolutely no idea how to use a C compiler on Windows. The documentation is fairly unclear on how to use MinGW and I would like to know how to use it.

Is that easier for you to understand?

[HoboHob]

I have absolutely no idea how to compile C on windows. I would if I was running linux, but I recently switched back to Windows 7, and I need some help. Anyone care to offer?

This post does not make sense, how would one compile C?

Now if you mean you want a compiler for C on windows, or how to use a C compiler then we are getting somewhere.

Well then. You would be correct. I have absolutely no idea how to use a C compiler on Windows. The documentation is fairly unclear on how to use MinGW and I would like to know how to use it.

Is that easier for you to understand?

http://www.mingw.org/wiki/Getting_Started

When it's finished installing type:

Code: Select all

gcc --version

into cmd to make sure it works.
If it doesn't you will need to set up an environment variable to point to mingw\bin.

I typed this up in a couple of seconds so excuse any errors.

[Sonarpulse]

raiku: Ha, I also have cinnamon as my "backup" WM. I used it before I found XMonad and tiling window management.

HoboHob: Well, I have never heard that one before. Do you mean PowerShell or cmd? Because I'm sorry, but the the DOS shell is blatantly inferior to any unix shell I can think of. Also what do you think of msys with mingw then? And lastly, while none of them are like the dos shell, there ARE a number of distinctly different shells. For example, check out zsh and https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh

[Amadeus]

Ok, thanks, that actually helped a lot. So, I've gotten Mingw installed. I attempted to compile the Makefile.mingw with mingw32-make, and it returns:

MINGW32-MAKE: Nothing to be done for 'Makefile.mingw'.

Am I doing something wrong?

[Sonarpulse]

http://www.mingw.org/wiki/FAQ you're probably best off using normal make most of the time. In this case though, just make sure you are in the right directory, and spelled it right (you can use tab-complete to double check).

[Amadeus]

The command line is not recognizing the 'make' command, it recognizes 'mingw32-make', though every time I try it with that it fails. I feel as though I've either left something out along the way or I've made a very big mistake.