Abandon 0.75, Update to 0.76

The original, free Ace of Spades game powered by the Voxlap engine. Known as “Classic,” 0.75, 0.76, and all 0.x versions. Created by Ben Aksoy.
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Which option would be the best

57%
Abandon 0.75 completely and switch to 0.76
96
8%
Switch back to 0.75
14
34%
Keep the status quo and support both, 0.75 and 0.76
57

Total votes: 167

ZEB 99
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still i cant play .76 i lag too much to do anything
[DELTA]Jon
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There is a thing I want to add. Currently there is a difference between forumers and ingame community members. The ingame community members clearly are not interested in moving to 0.76 and would rather stay in 0.75 as they have friends there and also it's fun. The thing about 0.76. Is that it's really competitive And people don't like that which kinda isn't what the aos community is about. I think we allow both versions to co exist as a forced update is pretty unfair to players who can quit. There is a difference between how the ingame community members are like and how forumers are like. We've made it this far no need for a forced revolution people will slowly decide where to go rather than being forced like a dictatorship. Also the people who voted mainly are people who only check the forums. Also grease no need to be racist and we need to be more democratic rather than a handful of people making decisions of there own accord. Also people still play 0.75 and 0.76 is mainly used for league we should have 0.76 for competitive gameplay while 0.75 for casual which most people are as they have more important priorities in real life to worry about.
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[DELTA]Jon wrote:
There is a thing I want to add. Currently there is a difference between forumers and ingame community members. The ingame community members clearly are not interested in moving to 0.76 and would rather stay in 0.75 as
IT'S STILL THE CURRENTLY PROMOTED VERSION AND IS STILL THE DEFAULT DOWNLOAD AND ALL THAT CRAP is what you meant to say.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
The thing about 0.76. Is that it's really competitive And people don't like that which kinda isn't what the aos community is about.
Stop. Talking. Now. You are spewing bullshit on something you really don't know about.

0.76 currently consists of people who take this game seriously enough to not use 0.75 (the default version), which might give you the illusion that it's strictly for more competitive types. But taking a game seriously does not mean that you are competitive.

Also, being competitive is one way to have fun. They are not mutually exclusive. I would even claim that being competitive is a subset of having fun.

EDIT: Now that I think of it, 0.76 tends to be full of players who really are not good at this game at all.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
I think we allow both versions to co exist as a forced update is pretty unfair to players who can quit.
Like they all quit when 0.75 came out, or when 0.70 came out, or when 0.62 came out, or when 0.61 came out, or when 0.60 came out, or when 0.58 came out, or when 0.54 came out, or when 0.52 came out, or when 0.51 came out, or...
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
There is a difference between how the ingame community members are like and how forumers are like.
Yes. Very few forumers:
1. forget how to speak English on servers where you MUST SPEAK ENGLISH BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COMMUNICATION
2. script kiddie the shit out of this game
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
We've made it this far no need for a forced revolution people will slowly decide where to go rather than being forced like a dictatorship.
No need for inaction either. I do feel that 0.75 is a steaming pile of horseshit and that's why I'd like it to be dropped entirely, and it currently holds the majority vote (40 (59%) -> 25 share (37%) -> 3 back to 0.75 (4%)). I have a feeling that if the B&S admins actually listen to us and take action on it, they will promote 0.76 as the default and have the 0.75 server list up as a secondary non-mainstream option... which is much better than the severely-decayed-and-still-rotting state we're in right now.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
Also the people who voted mainly are people who only check the forums.
My advice? If you care enough about this game and the direction this game is being taken (read: not very far, I wrote Iceball for a reason and that is because AoS itself is no longer being properly developed, and to continue such development is legally risky), then register on the forums.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
Also grease no need to be racist
What the fuck?
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
and we need to be more democratic rather than a handful of people making decisions of their own accord.
Anyone can vote as long as they're not banned from the forums. From my understanding, the only accounts/IPs that are banned are spambots.

Anyhow, if we were to be strictly democratic, we would be dumping 0.75 according to the current result of this poll.

Don't say "be democratic" when you actually mean "agree with me". They're two completely different things, because the majority of people who actually care does NOT agree with you.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
Also people still play 0.75 and 0.76 is mainly used for league
Because aloha.pk 0.76 pinpoint is "mainly used for league" despite tending to be full of casuals. Riiiiight.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
we should have 0.76 for competitive gameplay while 0.75 for casual
So the casual gamers should get used to a version which sucks more?

0.75 sucks, and I believe we need to dump it.

In fact, I believe we need to drop the non-rifle weapons too, because otherwise it becomes a fucking annoying game. There are people who will side with this belief, but I do admit it's a bit extreme and won't happen, especially amongst many of the server hosts. (/togglesmg was removed from most Minit servers after a while as we had a tendency to disable the SMG while we were playing.)

0.75 will probably never be dumped, but I feel that 0.76 needs to be promoted in favour of 0.75 to prevent this game from outright rotting.
[DELTA]Jon wrote:
which most people are as they have more important priorities in real life to worry about.
They installed 0.75 once. They already know how to install and play 0.76.
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[DELTA]Jon wrote:
There is a thing I want to add. Currently there is a difference between forumers and ingame community members. The ingame community members clearly are not interested in moving to 0.76 and would rather stay in 0.75 as they have friends there and also it's fun. The thing about 0.76. Is that it's really competitive And people don't like that which kinda isn't what the aos community is about. I think we allow both versions to co exist as a forced update is pretty unfair to players who can quit. There is a difference between how the ingame community members are like and how forumers are like. We've made it this far no need for a forced revolution people will slowly decide where to go rather than being forced like a dictatorship. Also the people who voted mainly are people who only check the forums. Also grease no need to be racist and we need to be more democratic rather than a handful of people making decisions of there own accord. Also people still play 0.75 and 0.76 is mainly used for league we should have 0.76 for competitive gameplay while 0.75 for casual which most people are as they have more important priorities in real life to worry about.

Most people play .75 because that is where most servers are.
Most servers use .75 because that is where most players are.

How hard is it to understand this? And every single update has been forced under the commands of Ben Aksoy, why should this be any different?

Also, link for greasemonkey's racism pl0x?
[DELTA]Jon
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Alright guys lets calm down and well I'll leave things up to you guys also grease was saying how 0.75 was full of brs and that's kinda racist but that was all in my opinion so I'm done on this topic.
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I honestly think the move is very necessary seeing it's an opportunity to enjoy the game without hacking at the moment. The way I see it, the more people stall the migration, the more time someone has to make and release a hack for 0.76 to the public.

I mean there already is a website dedicated to hacking/ban evading on 0.75, so why should we should keep 0.75 up?

I really like 0.76, but that version has less players so I end up going on 0.75. Now because of the major changes between .75 and .76, skills change a lot. From my experience, this happens to me a lot. If I'm good at 0.76, I suck on 0.75. If I'm used to 0.75, I'm bad on 0.76. I don't see why we should continue supporting a broken version of the game when the newer one is more balanced.
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[DELTA]Jon wrote:
...grease was saying how 0.75 was full of brs and that's kinda racist but that was all in my opinion so I'm done on this topic.
Not racist when you look at the data some people gathered. I know it's not specifically 0.75 but the majority of players play 0.75 anyways.

http://www.buildandshoot.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3822
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Question, I looked at the .76 servers and they always seem empty. Can you run both versions at the same time (guessing install to a different folder).

Also, from what I read there are no hacks for .76, does that mean that there are not an over abundance of accusations either? Getting tired already and only been back for a week.

Lastly, on a different note, my home computer keyboard does not have a number 2 key. I tried using the numpad 2 but it will not switch to blocks. I did not see anything in the controls.ini to remap this key. Is there a way to do it?
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You can try to use the mouse wheel to change for it but it can get a little annoying at times if your mouse is noisy.
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kikk{SARs} wrote:
Also, from what I read there are no hacks for .76, does that mean that there are not an over abundance of accusations either?
There's hardly any votekicks, really. Some are for grief, which DOES happen, but isn't as rampant as in 0.75. I've never seen anyone votekick on 0.76 for hacking.
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A few people have been falsely accused of hacking and vk'd in 76. There are compelling reasons to switch outright to 76 but the lack of cheats isnt one. Once it becomes the primary version everyone plays it will have cheats. Easy to google first result cheats.

As far as promoting 76 better, we have the single server list thingy made but we have some pbpbb theme issues that is mucking up the look.

Authing I havent got a status report... Blue_Crying

Use the commands below to get the 0.76 server
Code: Select all
wget http://aloha.pk/files/aos/pyspades/pyspades076.zip
unzip pyspades076.zip
cd pyspades076
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I think we should make .76 the recommended version, but I think that it would be a bad idea to get rid of SMGs and Shotguns
ZEB 99
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now that ive started playing aos .76 with low lag pc i think its better. alot better.
(also why do you think .75 is a streaming pile of horse shit greesemonkey?)
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Probably something about rifles and smg.
Heracles4 wrote:
I think we should make .76 the recommended version, but I think that it would be a bad idea to get rid of SMGs and Shotguns
Ultimately it doesnt matter because rifle has and always will be the best weapon and the only one really worth using. Removing the other weapons is pretty much like washing a childs chalk drawing off the chalkboard, it makes it less colorful but its still overall black. That said, I only find playing with the shotgun fun and would have even less incentive to play the game without it.
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