Iceball Project

[GreaseMonkey]

I do think there should be a spectator mode though

/gmode 2

Currently that's admin-only, and not complete. It'll need a bit more work.
There's also /gmode 3 for build mode.

With respect to the console... I use main() + -lSDLmain (which afaik creates a WinMain function), and I don't bother to compile it as a not-console application.

[duck_norris]

Hey, this looks really cool! It turn out really great. The only problem I have is you took out the smg, which was really the only gun for me that was fun to mod. I like modding the semi, but the fire rate is just too slow for me. Remember: don't be like the government. When something is broken, you don't waste something good and throw it away. You fix it. So many player use that gun, especially noobs, because they need that core weapon to get started. I was a noob once, and I remember going on semi only servers and how frustrating it was getting hardscoped over and over by pros. Don't do this for me man. Do it for all those poor noobs without a clue. Taking away the smg; foolish decision. Editing the smg to a more balanced assault rifle; would have been a good change that made everyone's game better.

GreasyMonkey, I love you man, but your killn' me bro

[MrHaaax]

Hey, this looks really cool! It turn out really great. The only problem I have is you took out the 'thing', which was really the only gun for me that was fun to mod. I like modding the semi, but the fire rate is just too slow for me. Remember: don't be like the government. When something is broken, you don't waste something good and throw it away. You fix it. So many player use that gun, especially noobs, because they need that core weapon to get started. I was a noob once, and I remember going on semi only servers and how frustrating it was getting hardscoped over and over by pros. Don't do this for me man. Do it for all those poor noobs without a clue. Taking away the 'thing'; foolish decision. Editing the 'thing' to a more balanced thingy; would have been a good change that made everyone's game better.

GreasyMonkey, I love you man, but your killn' me bro

Shhh, don't mention the.. thing in front of GreaseMonkey, he'll kill you!
FTFY.
On topic, looks like the game's making progress! Keep it up!

[Lemon]

First off, GreaseMonkey hates the SMG with all of his being. I hate it as well, but not to the extent as he does. It doesn't really take that much skill, and is quite easy to master. I would rather not have something that any joe-schmo FPS player off the street can master in an hour or two. A learning curve is nice to see in a game. Not a flat skill line of pure virtual massacre. I also disagree that an assault rifle will be balanced. It needs to be an SMG. NOT an assault rifle. It's already an assault rifle, and can snipe from across the map. It needs to be a mid-short range trench broom, like a true SMG. If you REALLLY want an SMG, go learn some LUA, (It's actually not that difficult, I'm a noob coder and I relatively understand it) and make it yourself.

[Sonarpulse]

It might even be in there, just not enabled by default.

[TB_]

Hey, this looks really cool! It turn out really great. The only problem I have is you took out the smg, which was really the only gun for me that was fun to mod. I like modding the semi, but the fire rate is just too slow for me. Remember: don't be like the government. When something is broken, you don't waste something good and throw it away. You fix it. So many player use that gun, especially noobs, because they need that core weapon to get started. I was a noob once, and I remember going on semi only servers and how frustrating it was getting hardscoped over and over by pros. Don't do this for me man. Do it for all those poor noobs without a clue. Taking away the smg; foolish decision. Editing the smg to a more balanced assault rifle; would have been a good change that made everyone's game better.

GreasyMonkey, I love you man, but your killn' me bro

There was an nice fix for this back in 0.2x. The game was much more than just shooting, like making giant tunnels and creating huge bunkers. Even if you sucked at actually shooting people, you could have tons of fun.

[GreaseMonkey]

Wow. I haven't touched the code in quite some time.

duck_norris:
>> Hey, this looks really cool! It turn out really great. The only problem I have is you took out the smg, which was really the only gun for me that was fun to mod. I like modding the semi, but the fire rate is just too slow for me.
Good. I don't care. If you have any issues with the fire rate, host your own server, and you can change anything you want; hell, you could even turn it into a game of chess. But don't expect anyone but noobs to ever want to play on it.

>> Remember: don't be like the government. When something is broken, you don't waste something good and throw it away. You fix it.
Yeah except the SMG was never good, so I threw it away. Seriously, you should never be asked to do surgery for cancer patients.

I had to rebuild this from the bottom-up. There's two guns in there and they're both rifles. I didn't add the second gun. But that's OK, apart from the fact that the main rifle is more like a Lee-Enfield than the "Lee-Enfield".

>> So many players use that gun, especially noobs, because they need that core weapon to get started grief the shit out of their own base.
FTFY. (It was fucking awful in 0.54 when it was introduced. They could just sit in the tent and have bullets fed through their ass and shoot all day.)

The bottom line is, they don't need it. What they need is to grow up.

>> I was a noob once, and I remember going on semi only servers and how frustrating it was getting hardscoped over and over by pros.

Sounds like you need something character-building. (DON'T PLAY THIS ON EASY IT'S JUST *WRONG* but normal is fine) - scroll down to where it says "08/06/28 東方地霊殿 体験版ver0.02a(135M)" and click on one of the links in that box. Extra kudos if you can beat the first stage on Lunatic difficulty :)

I remember when it was only semi-only servers, and I was happy to learn how to kick ass.

>> Don't do this for me man. Do it for all those poor noobs without a clue. Taking away the smg; foolish decision.
I've been wanting to take away the SMG for much longer than you have been around.

>> Editing the smg to a more balanced assault rifle; would have been a good change that made everyone's game better.
The 0.75 SMG was more of an assault rifle. That, paired with the rifle's spread being so bloody awful it had the same spread value as the 0.60 shotgun, utterly ruined the game.

>> GreasyMonkey, I love you man, but you're killn' me bro
I only take bribes through Visa.

Anyway, Lemon summed it up quite well.

It might even be in there, just not enabled by default.

There's a patch that adds one in. It's very different from the 0.75 one, though.

[Ninja_pig_pro]

I can't run this it always crashes when it is loading the EXE
Noooo it will not run on my grandma's rig!!!

[Webster]

You're suppose to open it with a command line...

[Sonarpulse]

There's a patch that adds one in. It's very different from the 0.75 one, though.

....why did you let them know

[PABH]

I can't run this it always crashes when it is loading the EXE
Noooo it will not run on my grandma's rig!!!

1) Make sure you've set kick_on_join to "false".
2) If you did, the default server isn't up anyway so it will still close itself. However, you can now host your own server or ask someone to do it for you and play there to test the game.

[rakiru]

It's most likely "crashing" (it's not, it's closing as soon as you open it) because you either didn't read the readme and tried to run the exe by double-clicking on it, or because you're trying to connect to the official server, which may not be up right now.

[Monstarules]

This may be a dumb question, but what is Iceball coded in?

[GreaseMonkey]

Updated to 0.0-45, now comes with a built-in tutorial, also this was a great opportunity to update sackit which now has resonant filters working

I'll need to ask someone if they can host the main server, maybe I need to prod rakiru to recreate the necessary account, but I'm aware that UnrealIncident has also given me an account on his server for a Powerthirst Edition server, so I might consider going with that instead.

This may be a dumb question, but what is Iceball coded in?

The engine is coded in C.
The game logic is coded in Lua.
All necessarily Lua code + assets are sent from the server to the client to be run in a sandbox.

[Ninja_pig_pro]

Ok, I followed the instructions and it works. Is there ever going to be a event on iceball? Also, will someone post a temp server? Local Host can get a bit boring.