Bigcheecho's Magical Communist Thread

[White Hot]

All political systems have their cons.
F.ex. Capitalism. Big corporations care so little about anything else than money, that things like the environment suffers.

So then the people get mad at corporations, who then change their ways to get back favor with the people. Who then buy more from that company earning them more money.

Truth is, people will always either buy what's cheapest, or a brand they have loyalty to because they bought it before.

[XxXAtlanXxX]

@BigCheecho: When the USSR was under Lenin it was truly communist I believe. Staling just screwed things up.

Thats the point, "under lenin" (i think you may have forgotten Kamenev Trotzki and others.) .
Real communism shouldnt have a leader.
Also, under Lenin, there were many tolerized robberies, even murders.
And have you ever heard of the russian famine 1921/22?
I hope so. But have you heard of Lenin or his comrades suffering from it? I didnt.
Also, opposition was strictly forbidden. Do you call that communism?

Back to the topic "communism in small districts".
I will tell my thoughts about that in a little village called example.
Example has average fertile land. In the village are some craftmen producing everything needed for a quite wealthy life. The village is also sharing some mines for coal, iron etc. with other villages.
The people being good at that farmer stuff and enjoying it will get the good pieces of land, working together to produce food and other plant and animal products very effective, well, because they have a natural talent for that stuff. The food gets in some parts stored, other parts get divided between the villages population. If the farmers need any special tools or if anything breaks, they just ask the craftmen. Those, of course, work, if necessary, work together to produce it.If they are not able to, they village sends a help request to another village having the necessary
ressources.
I would like to express that stuff more and also more detailed, but it is hard to do in english language and also I dont feel healthy :<

[Bigcheecho]

Back to the topic "communism in small districts".
I will tell my thoughts about that in a little village called example.
Example has average fertile land. In the village are some craftmen producing everything needed for a quite wealthy life. The village is also sharing some mines for coal, iron etc. with other villages.
The people being good at that farmer stuff and enjoying it will get the good pieces of land, working together to produce food and other plant and animal products very effective, well, because they have a natural talent for that stuff. The food gets in some parts stored, other parts get divided between the villages population. If the farmers need any special tools or if anything breaks, they just ask the craftmen. Those, of course, work, if necessary, work together to produce it.If they are not able to, they village sends a help request to another village having the necessary
ressources.
I would like to express that stuff more and also more detailed, but it is hard to do in english language and also I dont feel healthy :<

What communism was meant to be put in one post. Marvelous show!

[Conduit]

Communism is simply a gateway for the poor to become rich capitalists!
After using ones another strength, you simply ditch the charity system and become independent, good job Atlan.

[VladVP]

Communism is simply a gateway for the poor to become rich capitalists!
After using ones another strength, you simply ditch the charity system and become independent, good job Atlan.

But then please explain to me, how in every single historical case, the completely opposite has happened?

[XxXAtlanXxX]

Communism is simply a gateway for the poor to become rich capitalists!
After using ones another strength, you simply ditch the charity system and become independent, good job Atlan.

Why should I? I believe in the good part in every human.
Isnt it a natural reflex to help anyone who is in a miserable situation? Communism would live from the good part in every human.
Also, I guess you talk about "communistic" lands like china becoming rich?
The poor people are still poor. It wasnt/isnt communism. It is just a dictatorship called "communism".

[Conduit]

No, Atlan I'm agreeing with you.
The poor need communism!

[XxXAtlanXxX]

But why should you ditch the charity system?

[Conduit]

Why feed the leeches?
Let those who work prosper, let those who do not live off the dollar store.
Simple principle.
God Bless Capitalism!

[White Hot]

Why feed the leeches?
Let those who work prosper, let those who do not live off the dollar store.
Simple principle.
God Bless Capitalism!

No, please take a look at Rawls' Second Principle of Justice

[Conduit]

Communism is simply a portal to the door of capitalism.

Look at history.

[Venator]

Well Conduit while thats right in reality (cuz of the goverment),this isnt what Communism wants to archieve in theory.

[tin]

lol?

Communism never worked, it's an idea, it's a type of Utopia. Humans will always be greedy and hierarchy will always be present. Attempts to realize Communism turned out very bad, I mean look at the Communist countries. There is no freedom, no freedom at all. Since the beginning of the time people disagreed to be equal and as it seems, that won't change much, really. It's idea has been conceived long time ago, if you ask me. If you have ever read works of Greeks philosophers, you will notice many similar points.

[XxXAtlanXxX]

Communism is simply a portal to the door of capitalism.

Look at history.

I looked at history but I saw no communism at all.

[White Hot]

Communism is great until you add in humans. /thread.