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VladVP
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Priok wrote:Communism is an illusive system, it is really just a method for a very poor country to transition into capitalism. There is proof by this when you look at the following countries, East Germany, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Russia, China, etc. It's taken by the poor, young mind to be seen as a light where there was only darkness. It's a scary thing to feel a pain when you cannot think properly, because you are so poor that you can't even eat food for your mind ( Brain Food ) Therein the reason why communism isn't a bad system, but it's created by people suffering from illnesses and empty bellies
Karl Marx
Born to a wealthy upper middle-class family.
Friedrich Engels
Born as the eldest son of one of the biggest German cotton manufacturers at the time.
Vladimir Lenin
Studied physics and mathematics at the University of Kazan, and taught at the Penza Institute for the Nobility.
Peter Kropotkin
Was born in Moscow, into the second-highest level of the Russian aristocracy.
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DrDeuce
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That's a point, people were starving to death because of the Tsars, the people wanted a radical change as they had suffered for so long
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DrDeuce wrote:That's a point, people were starving to death because of the Tsars, the people wanted a radical change as they had suffered for so long
However, the Soviet government didn't exactly help out, as the USSR wasn't really communist, nor socialist from a Trotskyist view.
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VladVP
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kmaj wrote:VladVP wrote:
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That was not his point. He said communism is only good for poor countries, Lenin and Kropotkin aren't the entire population of Russia.
That was not what I responded to either. He said
Priok wrote:but it's created by people suffering from illnesses and empty bellies
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HoboHob
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@VladVP: He was referring to the general population. You don't have to take everything literally.
@BigCheecho: When the USSR was under Lenin it was truly communist I believe. Staling just screwed things up.
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Priok
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The wealthy people in Russia during this time did not even get food to put in their bellies. It is a communism system that creates such a way of live where everybody is rich and poor, while a content satisfaction bellows on the correction to eat food or not. There wasn't enough food for every human being so the humans ate other things. Communism is not good for poor countries, because it's a false hope in that there is no God to save them, thus they are already saved. Time is a constantly changing mechanism that changes things as it changes in its own path.
Illnesses were a very common problem in the olden days, because, wherein, there was no cure for them. There existed no antibiotic programms and only the very wealthy human beings were allowed to get better. It`s why they assassinated Fejodor Rasputin, because he was attempting to break what the Gods had already envisioned below. Man to walk the earth and to die for Him.
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DrDeuce
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Illnesses were a very common problem in the olden days
Lol, I find it funny how you refer to rampant plagues happening in 'the olden days'
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TB_
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Just wondering, is the wealth going to be shared across the entire country, or just small districts?
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VladVP
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TB_ wrote:Just wondering, is the wealth going to be shared across the entire country, or just small districts?
Depends on the specific philosophy, and what people decided when they formed their new communist state! (Or territory/area/whateversomething in the case of anarchism)
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Yeah, "Communism" is a massive, massive umbrella category. So it really depends.
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TB_
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Would probably make sense to have small districts. I'd feel more guilty if I didn't do any work which would affect the people close to me, instead of everyone in the entire country.
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I see " communism " as a way for the poor to gather strength, and eventually become capitalists, you know. Independent, civilized, being able to afford your own stuff and not have the government steal what you've worked for.
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Communism and socialism... No purpose in life for people in that regime. Why should i work harder if results of my labour will be taken away and divided on many people? Also, why will not i injure myself, if injured get more different social benefites? By the way, as i know in scandinavian countries, where "social treaty" is acting, every fifth doesn't work and live on different benefites (dole, disability grants and so on). And you say this situation is normal?
Have you read the Ayn Rand's "Atlas Shrugged"? I recommend you this book.
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TB_
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^ Nice ignorance you have there
Or did you take babies, children and old people into account when you say every fifth?
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Totenkopf
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I'm not sure about concrete country, i've sayed the idea.
Also, what's the purpose of posting pictures with no text or description?
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