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ReubenMcHawk
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Ace the king wrote:
And people make bad signatures to annoy people like Nikhao did and ReubenMcHawk did.
Hey now, my sigs are great.

Also worth saying that Skype might not be a good idea for a primary source of communication, it's fairly resource-intensive which doesn't sit well for a good 90% of this community.
MushieWarden
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ReubenMcHawk wrote:
Ace the king wrote:
And people make bad signatures to annoy people like Nikhao did and ReubenMcHawk did.
Hey now, my sigs are great.
I kinda agree on this one. Most of his sigs make me giggle.

Going back to topic, Skype clans aren't really that active imo. You can at least expect better activity on IRC, so why not move your main channel of communication to that? Yeah, you guys might be the "No, we ain't going with the mainstream" and such, but at least you guys can give it a try. Go look up some good IRC tutorials and go give that link to your other members. Soon enough, your channel (might) be bursting wuth activity.
ReubenMcHawk
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Yeah, not to mention Skype groups are closed off, gonna be harder to get people in there to hang out and socialize. There's really nothing better than IRC, this coming from someone who started on Xat.
MushieWarden
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True.
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Thank you all for the advice. We will look into it.
RO0Ki3
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I see you have a decent clan,good luck to you.
Mr.Torch
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Fleischgeruch wrote:
Spoiler:
I apologize in advance if this post is out of place, and if it gets deleted I am fine with that, but first I have a question.
Everyone in the council and the op speaks of this clan 'revolutionizing' the clan scene. How exactly are you planning to achieve that, if it's not a secret? (like reasons for declining a match) From what I've personally seen, you have 0 IRC activity, it is mostly council members who post in your BnS thread and your forums. Some people have said (idk if they are reliable witnesses or not) that you are not very active in AoS either. Normally I wouldn't mention that but your clan is still an AoS clan I assume. So far I've only heard rumors that you are active on Skype. But are you planning to revolutionize BnS clans by being a Skype clan, or am I not seeing the full picture? So far the only semi-original thing we've seen is the usage of a joined account for co-leaders.
If you feel like it, I'd appreciate if you could take your time (after all, your 44 members must be extremely busy so that none of them can do 2 matches in a day) to reply on this topic. And please answer that here, for everyone to see, because I'm far from the only one with doubts as to if this clan really is what it claims to be.

Btw saying 'thanks for everything' at the end of each of your posts just makes you look sarcastic and snobby, especially when everyone knows what you really think of the people you're addressing.
Spoiler:
We are not being sarcastic, lofty, snobby, etc. We are sincere when we say thank you. If everyone came here and said "Great Clan" we wouldn't learn anything. By having people come here and criticize we can actually learn from other experienced members. Also, if you want to see how active we are you would have to join the clan at the moment (we haven't created a public Skype group chat yet). I get tons of notifications (200+ overnight every day) and it's not really that resource intensive. You can just change the priority to low and use it only when you want to chat and there's not a big issue. (We don't do calls in the big chats) Also, just because a clan isn't on IRC 24/7 doesn't mean it's not an AOS clan. We're not using Skype just because everyone else uses IRC. We're just using Skype because it saves your messages and you can have special notification settings and is generally easy to use. We do however plan on becoming more active on the IRC (since not everyone likes using Skype), but we will always keep Skype as a valuable form of communication. Also,(you had a lot to say, just responding to things as I remember them not in any particular order), but I am very active on AOS as is the other clan members. I usually play on Aloha Arena servers, so most babel and pinpoint players might not see me that often, but I do try to get on other servers as well. Usually when I join a server I join with other clan members as well. I hope I answered most of your questions and I still will sincerely say thank you, because your criticism is invaluable. We will always try to work on our public image to further appeal to forum-goers.
Nikhao wrote:
Yeah, you're IRC is dead 24/7. If you're going to have that amount of members, you should at least be able to get one on your IRC channel. Don't become a skype clan, you'll go down like USAB.
Spoiler:
Coming from a member of USAB. They are not "dead" they are just a clan that plays different games. I am still in their clan for most other games I'll just use "Minecraft" as an example. I play MC with them quite often. And in my opinion it's better for a clan to be based on Skype and "evolve" into a new game when they become bored of an old game rather than just disbanding. Their clan has more unity than most clans that are alive today. They stuck together and switched games. Your bond with your clan should be friendship and not a game. Thanks for the input though we will try to get more people on IRC to further help the public appeal of the clan. Blue_Happy1
Wyvern
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Komrades play AoS, CS:GO, CS:S, Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, Starcraft BW, Hearthstone, Gmod, Unturned, Minecraft, Osu!, Realm of the Mad God, DayZ, and anything Mooseknuckle has us play all from IRC. (Also CobaltAk goes off and plays Payday2 by himself all the time T_T)
The thing IRC has above Skype is it is more open to new people and more user friendly. Skype happens to be a very limited and unoptimized voice chat program and there are dozens of better choices out there. But whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Fleischgeruch
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Mr.Torch wrote:
Coming from a member of USAB. They are not "dead" they are just a clan that plays different games. I am still in their clan for most other games I'll just use "Minecraft" as an example. I play MC with them quite often.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Revolution does not allow multi-clanning? Or does this only extend to clans based on AoS?
[DELTA]Jon
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One good thing about skype is you can control who's your contact and who is in the group chat. This eliminates most chances of a troll entering from the outside to tear stuff up. *Cough* Sirs Irc *Cough* They did it from preventing stuff like that happen again.
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Sirs IRC was a bit too sensitive, they would ban and mute people for shitty reasons. Afrodude was banned for just being a Komrade
Nikhao
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[DELTA]Jon wrote:
One good thing about skype is you can control who's your contact and who is in the group chat. This eliminates most chances of a troll entering from the outside to tear stuff up. *Cough* Sirs Irc *Cough* They did it from preventing stuff like that happen again.
You can control who's in your IRC as well, if only the Sirs admins actually knew how to ban people without having to ask Fleischy.
ReubenMcHawk
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Mr.Torch wrote:
We are not being sarcastic, lofty, snobby, etc. We are sincere when we say thank you. If everyone came here and said "Great Clan" we wouldn't learn anything. By having people come here and criticize we can actually learn from other experienced members. Also, if you want to see how active we are you would have to join the clan at the moment (we haven't created a public Skype group chat yet). I get tons of notifications (200+ overnight every day) and it's not really that resource intensive. You can just change the priority to low and use it only when you want to chat and there's not a big issue. (We don't do calls in the big chats) Also, just because a clan isn't on IRC 24/7 doesn't mean it's not an AOS clan. We're not using Skype just because everyone else uses IRC. We're just using Skype because it saves your messages and you can have special notification settings and is generally easy to use. We do however plan on becoming more active on the IRC (since not everyone likes using Skype), but we will always keep Skype as a valuable form of communication. Also,(you had a lot to say, just responding to things as I remember them not in any particular order), but I am very active on AOS as is the other clan members. I usually play on Aloha Arena servers, so most babel and pinpoint players might not see me that often, but I do try to get on other servers as well. Usually when I join a server I join with other clan members as well. I hope I answered most of your questions and I still will sincerely say thank you, because your criticism is invaluable. We will always try to work on our public image to further appeal to forum-goers.
IRC also saves all messages. And trust me, coming from a former netbook user, Skype is hell to run, and near impossible to play AoS simultaneously. I'd definitely recommend using Mumble for communicating during matches.

And like I said, the thank yous may be sincere, but it definitely comes off as condescending.

Also yeah, IRC is piss-easy to moderate, you just need to make sure the mods are competent.
Fleischgeruch
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Honestly, to admin a channel on IRC you don't need to know more than 2 basic commands that I learned on my first day of IRC. Just because Skype makes it ridiculously user-friendly doesn't make it a better substitute. It has voice chat, true, but Mumble would be a better choice for that. I mean really, only brazilians and weird germans use skype for gaming. Don't forget that if you really want to 'revolutionize' the clan situation in BnS, you have to engage yourself with the community and as far as I know no other clans use Skype and are way more active in IRC/Mumble, even the small ones.
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Alright, I'll share my opinion about Skype. Of course, it has its pros and cons. Pros are that it is user-friendly, it's easy to install and it is a cross-platform software which you can use on your phone, tablet, pc, etc. You just login, and bam, you're in the chat. It's also good because you can very easily join the group call, talk to people, use video chat and have fun times, or just simply chat in the same group conversation. Skype is fun in my opinion, but it also has cons. First of all you will be isolated from the whole community and to be honest, that's not very good as a permanent solution. Second problem is (as Reuben already said) simultaneously running Skype and Ace of Spades. If you have good pc and fast internet that might not be a problem for you, but it is problem to many people with average/bad PCs. From my experience, it's not good to try to force activity on 2 sides in the same time. I'm assuming that you will try to set-up your IRC and get your members to use it. However, if you are doing that, your activity might split up between people that will use Skype and people that will use IRC and you don't want that to happen. It's best to decide which one you want to maintain. If you choose IRC, your best option might be Mumble for voice communication, because the whole community uses it too, you will socialize more easily, plus it's more lag free and most probably no one will have troubles using it and playing games in the same time. So, my personal option would be IRC + Mumble. If you're on IRC, you are connected to the most of the community. Well, that would be about it from the top of my hat, if I think of something else too, I'll update my post.
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