gun controll

[Willy]

I think further investment in maintaining positive mental health and free (or very cheap) access to mental health services, as well as ensuring proper firearm use, maintenance and respect is taught before letting anyone buy a firearm is essential to solving the issue at hand. Several other countries (like Switzerland as danhezee mentioned) exercise little to no gun control and yet maintain exceedingly low per-capita violent crimes conducted with a firearm. The whole notion of 'ban culture' irks me, because it's the easiest, laziest, most ineffective and authoritarian way of 'solving' an issue. You can cut off his claws, but you haven't killed the dragon. Why not try to tame him?

ps. ban assault pancakes

[Ballistic]

Look at Germany, gun rules are strict and deaths related to guns rarely happen. The Germans are happy with their gun control rules and don't complain. People are allowed to own handguns, hunting rifles and shotguns which are enough in my opinion.
Even .50 BMG sniper rifles are legal in some states in the US. What would you ever need them for? Hunting? You would just ruin the meat and besides, a hunting rilfe is sufficient enough. Self defence? You won't get attacked by light armored vehicles and helicopters right? The shooting range? .50 BMG is just overkill.

[Willy]

What if you're hunting bears? Mountain lions? Sustenance is not the sole purpose of hunting. When hunting for sport or to 'thin out the herd' (I know bears and mountain lions don't live in herds, figure of speech) you want to make sure you're killing your target, especially when a dangerous animal is concerned. The worst thing you could do would be to injure and maim an animal without killing it, putting it through intense suffering and misery before it likely dies anyway. Furthermore, what if you are being attacked by helicopters and armoured vehicles? As someone mentioned before, in the United States the intended purpose of universal gun ownership is to fend off threats to the nation and to the people, whether they be external or internal. A nation of quiet, unprepared aggressive pacifists (sounds a little paradoxical hahaha) looks a fare riper target than a nation prepared for the worst eventuality.

[Ballistic]

The fact that you can buy .50 BMG rifles doesn't mean that they will only be used for self defense. What if a criminal buys himself one? Or even a terrorist? He or she could use it to shoot down helicopters and light armored vehicles too. The thing about being able to legally own such powerful weapons is that they can and will be abused.

[ZEB 99]

the thing about anything is it can be abused really. nothing can be 100 percent good or 100 percent evil

[danhezee]

You cant just go buy a 50 cal. or fully automatic gun. The hassle to get them pretty much only leaves the serious collectors interested in owning them.

[1Shot1Kill]

nothing can be 100 percent good or 100 percent evil

^^^

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

[ZEB 99]

danhezee is right, i often go to a gun store with my uncle to buy ammo before we go to the range, they dont even sell a 50 bmg there, they don't sell suppressors, they don't sell fully automatic weapons, they don't sell magazines over 30 rounds, and it has the most weapons of all kinds in town (hell probably county)

[CommieBuffalo]

People need to stop thinking that everything is black and white and that there is objective good or evil, and by extension objectively good or evil acts. People aren't goddamn cartoon villains, twisting their moustaches while thinking new ways to murder puppies, for god's sake. Just because a gun can be used to shoot down government helicopters(which, in certain cenarios, is not a bad thing as exemplified in this very topic) doesn't mean that that is its only use or the best use for it.
High explosives, for one, would probably be more appropriate for doing it while the helicopters are on the ground, but that is a different digression altogether.

[bullets]

the thing about anything is it can be abused really. nothing can be 100 percent good or 100 percent evil

That's the smartest thing you have ever said.

[[RUS] Vlad01]

the thing about anything is it can be abused really. nothing can be 100 percent good or 100 percent evil

That's the smartest thing you have ever said.

He just opened a philosophy for himself.

[bloodfox]

No, guns. no matter what. They shouldn't be held except for the law. There should be no excuse for "defending" yourself. Guns aren't the way to go because what if you have anger problems?

[ZEB 99]

If thy ban guns there may be a civil war, and I don't want a war here, so keep it how it is,

[Vezok]

If thy ban guns there may be a civil war, and I don't want a war here, so keep it how it is,

Yea that's not true.

[CommieBuffalo]

No, guns. no matter what. They shouldn't be held except for the law. There should be no excuse for "defending" yourself. Guns aren't the way to go because what if you have anger problems?

Then you don't get a gun, and that wouldn't stop other, sane people from getting a gun. Saying you don't need a gun because there are cops is like saying you don't need fire extinguishers because there are firemen in your town. What you said is just stupid.

If thy ban guns there may be a civil war, and I don't want a war here, so keep it how it is,

No, this is stupid too. This is a complete non sequitur.