PC's

[Pedroh]

Lol ^^^lol gg dominis gg

[Teeth]

My advice would be to do a lot of reading on this type of stuff because you really don't want to screw up building your rig. Do your reasearch on parts or just ask around on some tech forums for some advice on getting the most bang for your buck.

[Dominis]

1. Don't buy a laptop if you want to play games. They will be ok for the first 6 months, but then you will need a new one to play something on high/ultra settings.
2. At least try to build your own PC. Buying a PC in one peace costs up to 50% more.
3. Get an SSD. It's the best thing you can get if you want your PC to boot up fast. It might be a bit expensive, but if I had enough money I would buy one.
4. Smoke a lot of crack.

[Teeth]

4. Smoke a lot of crack.

I can't stress enough about how important this last point is. It's an essential. Dom, you really know your stuff!

[Dominis]

4. Smoke a lot of crack.

I can't stress enough about how important this last point is. It's an essential. Dom, you really know your stuff!

Why, thank you. I have a lot of experience. Try to browse some forums. The good crack community people can tell you a lot of stuff like: What pipe should I use? They usually have really funny replies. They really crack me up sometimes. ha ha ha

[ThisFrickinSite]

How the fuck do you make the list item things work?

You should build your own. Here's a starting point. I didn't spend a whole ton of time on that list, there might be some issues with it that I didn't notice. Read up on the specifics of the parts and customers' experiences with them, there's nothing worse than finding out you made a bad decision when it comes down to build-day.
Some things to note, assuming you know nothing:

[*]If you aren't planning on getting a new monitor, move that money towards an SSD, or nothing at all if you just want to save money.

[*]Same goes for the operating system if you still have your activation key for Windows (I think that's how that works, right?) or you're just going to use Linux, redirect those funds.

[*]The four fans included in the part list are intended to be mounted with two on the front as intake and two on the top as outtake. The case comes with a fan, too. You can choose to mount this as intake on the side panel's fan mount (I'd recommend it).

[*]The power supply is cheap but high in quality; I even use it. You can choose to find a better one if you feel like it, but keep in mind that the one I chose has everything you need, although you might need some more molex connectors for fans if the motherboard doesn't support 4 to 5 fan jacks. You'll have to check, yourself.

[*]Unless you plan on doing lots of CAD work, or you find ramdisks to be a new obsession of yours, you don't need more ram. Ramdisks aren't really worth the money, especially if you already have an SSD (which has the benefit of permanent storage :P).

[*]The CPU cooler is pretty close to the top of the line for sensible air cooling. One thing you might want to do is replace the fans on it with different ones that move more air more quietly, although the cooler isn't loud by any means and will really [probably] never hit full power unless you start overclocking your CPU.

[*]Do consider overclocking, even if you aren't planning on doing it yourself. Quite a few products are aimed at overclockers, and will therefore have their price effected by this, and it usually (as in not always) will be upwards. The processor I picked out is quite a beast at overclocking, feel free to down-step to an i5-3470 ($47 cheaper, 95% of the base performance of the 3570k, but not as good at OC'ing)

[*]Don't be scared to build your own computer, just be aware of how to do it. Avoid static buildups and watch a tutorial or two. It's like snapping together puzzle pieces, just really expensive puzzle pieces, for the most part.

[[RUS] Vlad01]

1. Don't buy a laptop if you want to play games. They will be ok for the first 6 months, but then you will need a new one to play something on high/ultra settings.

Fuck me.

[Fleischgeruch]

Uh I bought a laptop to play games...
...with no video card. Some people don't need super HD settings to play k.

[Dominis]

I bought a laptop too. I drink bleach now. It makes me forget about all the awesome games I could have played.

[Fleischgeruch]

I bought a laptop too. I drink bleach now. It makes me forget about all the awesome games I could have played.

Tbh most awesome games are old and low-req enough to be played on a basic laptop.

[Teeth]

[*]The CPU cooler is pretty close to the top of the line for sensible air cooling. One thing you might want to do is replace the fans on it with different ones that move more air more quietly, although the cooler isn't loud by any means and will really [probably] never hit full power unless you start overclocking your CPU..

You're probably the most educated out of all of this stuff in this thread as far as I can see. What are your opinions on liquid coolers vs traditional fan coolers? I'm building a new one soon once I get all my parts and I just want to know what you think. Some of us here might be in the same boat as me, so yeah..

[Dominis]

[*]The CPU cooler is pretty close to the top of the line for sensible air cooling. One thing you might want to do is replace the fans on it with different ones that move more air more quietly, although the cooler isn't loud by any means and will really [probably] never hit full power unless you start overclocking your CPU..

You're probably the most educated out of all of this stuff in this thread as far as I can see. What are your opinions on liquid coolers vs traditional fan coolers? I'm building a new one soon once I get all my parts and I just want to know what you think. Some of us here might be in the same boat as me, so yeah..

If you search random forums and sites you'll find that there little to none difference in the actual cooling, but liqud is really silent and it costs more. I hope I'll build a PC soon too.

I bought a laptop too. I drink bleach now. It makes me forget about all the awesome games I could have played.

Tbh most awesome games are old and low-req enough to be played on a basic laptop.

I wanted to play Max Payne 3 on minimum settings and failed. I want to play bloody minecraft on minimum and I can't even do that. I can however play gta4 on ultra. Which is blowing my mind. Dualcore processors suck and laptop graphics suck if you don't pay 2000$ for your laptop. If you do, there is still a good chance that the cooling sucks. And when you buy it there is not way to fully upgrade it. Oh, you want a full hd screen? Well, you can go on the back of the line. But hey, you can upgrade the ram. That will help you 100%. I don't even want to talk about battery life and how it dies after 1 year.

Just don't be lazy and make your own PC.

[Pedroh]

Thanks everybody, but I just bought a pc yesterday, it's a Dell XPS
4th gen Intel core i7-4770proccesesor
16gb memory 2tb Hard drive
Windows8.1
Yah what do you guys think it was $1099.99\
Thanks all for the ideas

[1Shot1Kill]

Thanks everybody, but I just bought a pc yesterday, it's a Dell XPS

Nope, stopped reading there. Like everyone else on this thread said, build you own PC. You could do better than that if you built it yourself for the same price or less. If you can, return that and get this build:

If you want to run pretty much any game at max (even Battlefield 4 & Crysis 3), for just $5 more you could get this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3r3tL

[ThisFrickinSite]

[*]The CPU cooler is pretty close to the top of the line for sensible air cooling. One thing you might want to do is replace the fans on it with different ones that move more air more quietly, although the cooler isn't loud by any means and will really [probably] never hit full power unless you start overclocking your CPU..

You're probably the most educated out of all of this stuff in this thread as far as I can see. What are your opinions on liquid coolers vs traditional fan coolers? I'm building a new one soon once I get all my parts and I just want to know what you think. Some of us here might be in the same boat as me, so yeah..

TL;DR at bottom.

Liquid cooling is, contrary to dominis' beliefs, generally better than air cooling. it is NOT notably quieter because it relies on using fans to push air through radiators to cool whatever liquid you're using to cool your pc. This brings up a dilemma: you're either sucking warm air out of your case to cool off your liquid (makes the liquid warmer), or you're ejecting hot air into the case so that you can get cool air from the outside of it. This can be fixed in two ways: either hook both your GPU and PSU into the water loop since they're the only things that get stupidly hot (and then you'll probably want to use your radiator as outtake for the case), or buy a case that has a ton of flexibility that includes chambers in the bottom/top of the case that are dedicated to providing exhaust and intake for radiators that don't bother everything else in your pc. This will raise the price of your case considerably. Water cooling also requires a lot more planning. You need to know exactly where you're going to put you radiator in your case before you get your radiator and find out that it's just 3mm too thick to fit. Obviously radiators and fans must be compatible, too.

Something that is relatively new is pre-built water loops. It is exactly what it sounds like, pre-built water cooling loops. They're really the only affordable form of water cooling, and I'd highly recommend these if you aren't overflowing with money. The thing is, they still cost upwards of $110 USD compared to $25 USD for air cooling, and they still require some form of maintenance, however they can also still drop your cpu temps from, for example, ~60-65C under load to ~45-50C under load. Note: intel cpu's run much cooler than amd cpu's and you never really want to watercool them unless you've already got your dream machine built and desire the extremely diminished results that come with upgrading the cooling on already well cooled parts. With pre-built loops, you can also replace the CPU waterblock with one made for your GPU and cool your GPU that way, or both. Note that most GPU's require a different waterblock than any other GPU, so you have to be careful not to order one that isn't compatible with yours. Side note: custom loops can be disgustingly sexy, while pre-built loops simply are not. But this is something that should rarely be a prominent thought when building a pc if your priorities are right.

Also, consider the risk of putting semi-conductive liquids inside of a delicate machine that costs $$$. If you've got a custom loop in mind, be ready to clean out your pants a few times if you don't know exactly what you're doing. I don't feel like I touched on it enough, but water cooling does require maintenance. This is where my knowledge ends, I have no idea what kind of maintenance there is beyond making sure there aren't any leaks after you've got it set up, I just know that there's some sort of reason that people have for refilling their water loops every so often.

TL;DR: if you're willing to pay 4-6x more (in terms of cooling only) for 10-20C temperature drops, go for it, just make sure you've got everything down-pat before execution or you will be sorry.

Thanks everybody, but I just bought a pc yesterday, it's a Dell XPS
4th gen Intel core i7-4770proccesesor
16gb memory 2tb Hard drive
Windows8.1
Yah what do you guys think it was $1099.99\
Thanks all for the ideas

Do you have any more information on what you got, i.e. what graphics card do you have? Mother board? Etc...

God dammit, pedrolerapist. I'm really disappointed in you. You make a thread for help and ignore all of it. Typing my post did take time, you know. Whatever GPU you managed to get for your computer, I can tell you you don't need an i7 and could have probably saved $100 right off the bat, especially if all you plan on doing is gaming. You also didn't need another 8 gigs of ram, another $65 you could have saved. I would really like some more information, though.