Build and Shoot

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:55 pm**

So recently i finally decided to make an account so i could contribute towards the community

My in-game name is RedStrafe, I usually play the game alot (mainly on Gaming UK, Babel, or Nuketown servers mostly)
I'm quite happy that I've created an account so now i can start uploading my mods and other stuff as well

I also have on question : Is it possible for me in any way to reduced or completely remove the fog from OpenSpades? I notice that within OS the fog is much more close than in Build And Shoot, so i was just wondering if i could do it or not. I would understand if this is against the rules or that it would give the other players a disadvantage.

Thanks in advance! Love the game :D

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:01 pm**

Posted: **Tue Aug 18, 2015 10:37 pm**

Oppy wrote:
there is no way to modify the fog in open spades (unless you edit the source code, but removing the fog would be cheating.)

not really cheating, since the render distance would remain the same with fog or not

Posted: **Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:42 am**

LOL i removed the fog without shitting all over the source code.
But the problem then is that AoS 0.75 player can hit you beyond fog range (about 135 blocks), while in OS you get about 127 blocks of hit range and 130 of rendering range.

Which means:
that you shoot them,
you dont hit them,
they shoot back and kill.

Posted: **Sun Nov 08, 2015 10:36 pm**

koronelkhunt wrote:
Oppy wrote:
there is no way to modify the fog in open spades (unless you edit the source code, but removing the fog would be cheating.)
not really cheating, since the render distance would remain the same with fog or not

It's classified as cheating and has been ever since it was easy to do a nofog by editing the config.

Chameleon wrote:
LOL i removed the fog without shitting all over the source code.

If this game wasn't so dead you would be on the GBL by now.

Chameleon wrote:
But the problem then is that AoS 0.75 player can hit you beyond fog range (about 135 blocks), while in OS you get about 127 blocks of hit range and 130 of rendering range.

It's been established that the limit is only along the x,y axes, with z being the "vertically down" axis. After a quick skim through the Powerthirst "source" I find this (twice):

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        imul    eax, eax, PLR_STRUCT_SIZE                           ; 0042AA86 _ 69. C0, 000003A8
        fld     dword [plr_x2+eax]                     ; 0042AA8C _ D9. 80, 0047CE1C(d)
        fsub    dword [esi-0D4H]                        ; 0042AA92 _ D8. A6, FFFFFF2C
        fstp    dword [esp+1CH]                         ; 0042AA98 _ D9. 5C 24, 1C
        fld     dword [plr_y2+eax]                     ; 0042AA9C _ D9. 80, 0047CE20(d)
        fsub    dword [esi-0D0H]                        ; 0042AAA2 _ D8. A6, FFFFFF30
        fstp    dword [esp+18H]                         ; 0042AAA8 _ D9. 5C 24, 18
        fld     dword [esp+18H]                         ; 0042AAAC _ D9. 44 24, 18
        fld     dword [esp+1CH]                         ; 0042AAB0 _ D9. 44 24, 1C
        fmul    st0, st0                              ; 0042AAB4 _ DC. C8
        fld     st1                                     ; 0042AAB6 _ D9. C1
        fmulp   st2, st0                              ; 0042AAB8 _ DE. CA
        faddp   st1, st0                              ; 0042AABA _ DE. C1
        fcomp   qword [ud_08218] <-- 16384.0, AKA 128.0**2                         ; 0042AABC _ DC. 1D, 00448C58(d)

So it seems the hit distance is 128.0 horizontally, where vertically doesn't affect anything.

Whereas OpenSpades does this:

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if(mapResult.hit && (mapResult.hitPos - muzzle).GetLength() < 128.f &&

Which checks all of x,y,z. So Voxlap AoS clamps to a cylinder, while OpenSpades clamps to a sphere.

Posted: **Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:11 pm**

Somewhat half a month late, but I believe AoS hit distance is beyond 128. I tested it, fired so many shots at known range and AoS hit blocks about 134-135, while OS just stops at 128.

Marisa Kirisame wrote:
If this game wasn't so dead you would be on the GBL by now.

Yeah, I feel kinda bad for doing that, I racked up ~50 killstreak over 30 minutes on a push server, but haven't been sucessful ever since, so instead I slimmed the fog a bit. Just so you know, you can do e s p too, which was fixed but not yet released by yvt. (Fix is in my build)

Posted: **Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:57 pm**

Chameleon wrote:
Just so you know, you can do e s p too

In OpenGL we typically call this

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glClear(GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT);

or

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glDepthFunc(GL_GREATER);

or

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glDepthFunc(GL_ALWAYS);

or

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glStencilFunc(GL_ALWAYS, 1, 255);
glStencilOp(GL_KEEP, GL_REPLACE, GL_REPLACE);
...
glStencilFunc(GL_EQUAL, 1, 255);

or

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glBlendFunc(GL_ONE, GL_ONE);

and so on. It's pretty easy to drop one of those in.

Posted: **Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:14 pm**

Quote myself: which was fixed but not yet released by yvt. (Fix is in my build)

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