The Problem with Votekick

[Reki]

Pray tell, how would you specify which votekick you're voting for if there are multiple votekicks simultaneously?

I was thinking we can do a script where someone who received votekicks against him from many different players will have successively fewer required votes to pass.

Example: Player A, B, and C.

Player B starts a votekick on Player A, but doesn't go through.
Player C starts another votekick on Player A, which has a lower threshold required.
If Player B starts another votekick on Player A, it doesn't decrease the threshold any further.

[shywolf91]

Pray tell, how would you specify which votekick you're voting for if there are multiple votekicks simultaneously?

I was thinking we can do a script where someone who received votekicks against him from many different players will have successively fewer required votes to pass.

Example: Player A, B, and C.

Player B starts a votekick on Player A, but doesn't go through.
Player C starts another votekick on Player A, which has a lower threshold required.
If Player B starts another votekick on Player A, it doesn't decrease the threshold any further.

That seems like a good idea.

I also think we need to keep a eye on the reasons too. As stated before I've seen way too many stupid reasons for doing a votekick.

[Jdrew]

If you want get a better script then make one

[rakiru]

If you want get a better script then make one

That doesn't really work if you don't run a server and the server owners don't know about it or want/use it.

[GreaseMonkey]

As someone who only ever played 0.52 for one day, bring back /n and do it right.
Having a distinct "no" is by far better than assuming "undecided" == "no".

[Cajun Style]

Whenever I start a votekick, for the reason I put something slightly trumped up/scary, such as "Killing all of his teammates" or "Destroying everything green has".

I'd call it "dumbing it down a little" and like it very much.

[Reki]

As someone who only ever played 0.52 for one day, bring back /n and do it right.
Having a distinct "no" is by far better than assuming "undecided" == "no".

X100

[rakiru]

I only just found out about /n yesterday, but it instantly sounded like a bad idea.
To be fair, it was from the RoT guys...

[GreaseMonkey]

Hence the "do it right" bit. Besides, RoT isn't your average pubby.

[danhezee]

I am thinking of ditching votekick all together and have a small army of guards that can kick without voting anyone they deem troublesome

[Bigcheecho]

The problem is that "AIRSTRIKE UNLOCKED. TYPE /Y TO LAUNCH." is more successful than "griefing everything" when it comes to reasons. That's the community being misinformed, and that's what we ought to fix.

There should be a regular message in the chat saying that /Y means to vote yes in a votekick and ONLY THAT. People should also be banned for doing the "/Y FOR AIRSTRIKE" trick to gain votes for votekick.

[shywolf91]

I am thinking of ditching votekick all together and have a small army of guards that can kick without voting anyone they deem troublesome

It appears to be a good idea, but I don't think that would would work all that well.

I think votekick is okay, but I've seen many people using votekick for not so great reasons. for example a player started a votekick because he was killed by an enemy.

On many servers that I played on there are hardly any admins observing the votekicks. We don't know if the admins or there or not.

[shywolf91]

The problem is that "AIRSTRIKE UNLOCKED. TYPE /Y TO LAUNCH." is more successful than "griefing everything" when it comes to reasons. That's the community being misinformed, and that's what we ought to fix.

There should be a regular message in the chat saying that /Y means to vote yes in a votekick and ONLY THAT. People should also be banned for doing the "/Y FOR AIRSTRIKE" trick to gain votes for votekick.

I agree with that. I've seen people using that line on almost every votekick. There are even videos on youtube showing them doing it.

[MKU]

Votekicking isn't the problem. People are.

[shywolf91]

Votekicking isn't the problem. People are.

I also agree that many people abuse votekick, but I also think votekick could be improved and should also be monitored.