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gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:39 am
by ZEB 99
poll on weither gon controll is good or bad.
(to me gun ccontroll aint good)

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:08 am
by Priok
I think it depends on the country for certain things, but generally I don't think it's a good idea

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 5:40 am
by rakiru
In the US, I think it's fucking stupid - imagine trying to enforce it.

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 6:54 am
by Semper
Well, guns are not bad. People make them bad.

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:32 am
by DrDeuce
In Britain, we don't have guns, and that means we don't get a killing spree every two weeks.

All they need to do is BAN MILITARY GRADE WEAPONS - only allow traditional shotguns and pistols, having an AK47 or grenade launcher should be illegal even if you have a license...

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:09 pm
by Fluttershy
rakiru wrote:
In the US, I think it's fucking stupid - imagine trying to enforce it.
And this is always going to be a problem with any ban or control. People love citing countries that have borders the size of like Pennsylvania as wonderful, crimeless nations but dont realize that our borders are fucking massive even if we dont include Alaska.

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:14 pm
by White Hot
Well, here in the USA we have a constitutional right to guns. However, the original purpose of this was so that citizens could form a militia when they needed to. Therefore people shouldn't need extended clips and rocket launchers. Especially considering the people who wrote the constitution couldn't even have imagined the power of some guns nowadays. If someone ran into a movie theater with a musket and started firing, they could only get off one, highly inaccurate shot before everyone ran out.
So, what I'm saying is that we are allowed to have guns, and I do think that that is a fair right. However, the ownership of guns needs to be policed so that everyone is safe. Having background checks fior gun ownership does not violate your rights, nor does a ban of military weapons. Gun control is a good thing and save lives. Remember that gun control does not mean a ban on guns, merely regulations on the ownership of guns.

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 3:42 pm
by TB_
Err, we have gun control in Norway. Which I'm pretty happy about because it seems to work well. 9 times less assassinations per 100k capita than the US.

But I can see that enforcing gun control laws in the US is going to be though. Especially when so many people associates guns with "manliness".

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Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 5:17 pm
by DrDeuce
Same with the gun control in the UK. We don't need a public information video saying what to do in a gun attack.

We get a gun massacre once every decade, but the US gets one every month these days.

Also banning guns would bring a major blow to the economy, because of the arms trade. Seriously, just don't sell AK47s, just sell simple guns. Also, getting a gun license should be MUCH HARDER like it is in the UK...

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 6:59 pm
by Ozone
White Hot wrote:
Well, here in the USA we have a constitutional right to guns. However, the original purpose of this was so that citizens could form a militia when they needed to. Therefore people shouldn't need extended clips and rocket launchers. Especially considering the people who wrote the constitution couldn't even have imagined the power of some guns nowadays. If someone ran into a movie theater with a musket and started firing, they could only get off one, highly inaccurate shot before everyone ran out.
So, what I'm saying is that we are allowed to have guns, and I do think that that is a fair right. However, the ownership of guns needs to be policed so that everyone is safe. Having background checks fior gun ownership does not violate your rights, nor does a ban of military weapons. Gun control is a good thing and save lives. Remember that gun control does not mean a ban on guns, merely regulations on the ownership of guns.
You are right that we do have a constitutional right to own a firearms and it is so that we can form a militia when we need it but in a modern day militia expect extended clips and rocket launchers (rocket launchers are illegal any ways). It is true that they didn't know what an "Assault weapon" was either but back then THE rifle to have was a Kentucky long rifle that gave you much more range and accuracy than any other gun in the day and the Founding Fathers hoped that it would be in every ones house.
however if some one ran into a movie theater (or any other place for that matter) and they had a CCW license they wouldn't hurt anyone.
I agree that backround checks don't infringe in your rights but a ban of military weapons does
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If the military has some kick ass rifles, Why can't I ? what is stopping any future president from becoming another Adolf Hitler?
and for the last bit where you said gun control saves lives
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... -an-ar-15/
this is the dreaded AR-15 the weapon that everyone wanted to ban that saved lives.

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:05 pm
by ZEB 99
Ozone wrote:
White Hot wrote:
Well, here in the USA we have a constitutional right to guns. However, the original purpose of this was so that citizens could form a militia when they needed to. Therefore people shouldn't need extended clips and rocket launchers. Especially considering the people who wrote the constitution couldn't even have imagined the power of some guns nowadays. If someone ran into a movie theater with a musket and started firing, they could only get off one, highly inaccurate shot before everyone ran out.
So, what I'm saying is that we are allowed to have guns, and I do think that that is a fair right. However, the ownership of guns needs to be policed so that everyone is safe. Having background checks fior gun ownership does not violate your rights, nor does a ban of military weapons. Gun control is a good thing and save lives. Remember that gun control does not mean a ban on guns, merely regulations on the ownership of guns.
You are right that we do have a constitutional right to own a firearms and it is so that we can form a militia when we need it but in a modern day militia expect extended clips and rocket launchers (rocket launchers are illegal any ways). It is true that they didn't know what an "Assault weapon" was either but back then THE rifle to have was a Kentucky long rifle that gave you much more range and accuracy than any other gun in the day and the Founding Fathers hoped that it would be in every ones house.
however if some one ran into a movie theater (or any other place for that matter) and they had a CCW license they wouldn't hurt anyone.
I agree that backround checks don't infringe in your rights but a ban of military weapons does
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If the military has some kick ass rifles, Why can't I ? what is stopping any future president from becoming another Adolf Hitler?
and for the last bit where you said gun control saves lives
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... -an-ar-15/
this is the dreaded AR-15 the weapon that everyone wanted to ban that saved lives.
nice to see someone who shares my opinion

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:20 am
by Fluttershy
White Hot wrote:
Well, here in the USA we have a constitutional right to guns. However, the original purpose of this was so that citizens could form a militia when they needed to. Therefore people shouldn't need extended clips and rocket launchers.
Wouldnt that actually justify the need for them?

Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:03 am
by DrDeuce
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Re: gun controll or not

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:20 pm
by Ozone
your pictures don't work.

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Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:54 pm
by DrDeuce
Ya... I think they might have been removed. I'll replace them with....

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