Build and Shoot

A little vague this one, trying to put my own musings into words, or find an adequate way of explaining.

One of the issues here is defining reality, as opposed to a false/fabricated reality. The dictionary definition of reality is as follows "the state of things as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic or notional idea of them." relevant or not I will be using reality in this thread to represent what we perceive as reality. It may be a bit surreal, flawed, or just downright incorrect, so bear with me.

The first thing I want to cover here is the idea that a false or fabricated reality is itself indistinct from reality, the two are entirely indistinguishable in practise. There is no possible way for you to know if you are living in reality or a fabricated reality, take two people, now one of them firmly and utterly believes that the other is wearing a doughnut on his head, to him it is a reality, it is true and factual. The other man knows that this is not true, it is an unreality. But does it matter at all that either is real or unreal? the effects are still exactly the same. Our reality is our perception of that reality. So reality itself is fluid, changeable and controllable.

This fluid reality is used as a control mechanism to produce a compliant public. Time and time again in history it has been proved that a governing body cannot forcefully subjugate and control a people, it just doesn't work. Once it was realised that this approach was counter productive a new technique had to be formed, a subtle, drawn out process. This process was to create a false reality for us to live in, and strung out over several generations it has proved to be fairly effective. In this false reality we are distracted from it's flaws by the existence of a constant threat: terrorism, war, famine etc. Manufactured to terrify and deceive a gullible public into going along with the decisions of it's governing body for the preservation of their comfort and continued existence. Another big part of this false reality is to remove self reliance, the public MUST depend on it's governing body to take care of them, it is the fear of loosing our comfortable easy life styles that keeps us in check.

In this false reality the state will protect you, from all threats both foreign and domestic. Police and military. You don't need to protect yourself, you don't need to arm yourself, arming yourself is dangerous and can lead to innocent deaths. The goal of this part of the process is to disarm the people, to remove the option of effective violence from them, so that they pose less threat to the continuation of authority. Events of armed violence will grow exponentially over time, fabricated in the media if not in actual practise, to scare the general public into agreeing with the states ideal of a disarmed public, all under the guise of protecting them.

There have been many events in the USA over the years that I have taken a very keen interest in, and how I believe they link to the process of false reality, however I also feel mentioning them here would be distasteful at the least. So google operation northwoods, read the wiki. And investigate yourself.

TL;DR Reality is not an fixed state, it is fluid and changeable, and is the perfect control mechanism. We are quite literally living in a false reality, matrix style :P

There is a lot more I have to say on the subject, but I think I'll leave it there. Found it hard enough to put into words just those few points. Look forward to reading the replies.

Fleischgeruch wrote:

gen wrote:

xCross wrote:

Wow that's a lot of words! :O.

I'm too impatient to read

i thought this was going to be an universal thing, so you lost me in these 2 paragraphs, when you started talking about guns and state protection, since it became pretty much a USA thing.
and guys, please, stop.

i totally agree with you on this whole thing

this is too conspiracy theory-y. This is an unfalsifiable hypothesis, so there is little to no point in debating it.

As subjective as our perceptions are of our consciousness and our perspective on the world around us, there is a clear line of things that are known and things that are completely false. I feel what you're referring to in this whole wall of text is touching on media brainwashing and political ideologies surpassing actual factual worldly events and situations. Granted, differentiating between the two is usually a sea that's pretty choppy and uneven and you make do with your life experience and your actual knowledge of anything relatable, but, it's not impossible to realise you're being lied to. Incongruities are not hard to pick up on and if your paying attention to what you know as fact and not emotionally buying into what you're told because it makes you safe or comfortable by simply having that knowledge then you're pretty set. However therein lies the actual problem. As much as you'd like to believe it - emotions aren't rational, and attempting to rationalise them is pretty redundant and trivial consequently only leading to more inevitable alienation. Which is why propaganda is so effective ultimately, it's why charities generate donations and it's why the media environment we created has no trouble at all in creating a false perception of what's really going on and because you implicitly trust the source then who are you to say they're wrong? If a kid when you're 5 tells you Santa didn't exist, you'd go make sure from mum and dad because you implicitly trusted their information. The dichotomy is real and it's a mental conundrum to say the least, but there is hope for our world yet.

Wow DE you should stop the drunkposting :D

kmaj wrote:

Time and time again in history it has been proved that a governing body cannot forcefully subjugate and control the middle and upper classes, it just doesn't work.

Here, I fixed it.

In this false reality the state will protect you, from all threats both foreign and domestic. Police and military.

That's what the state is supposed to do, and there's nothing wrong with that. But if the police force is so incompetent every citizen needs to own and carry firearms, then there is clearly a problem.

when you need them most the police will not be there

ZEB 99 wrote:

kmaj wrote:

Time and time again in history it has been proved that a governing body cannot forcefully subjugate and control the middle and upper classes, it just doesn't work.

Here, I fixed it.

In this false reality the state will protect you, from all threats both foreign and domestic. Police and military.

That's what the state is supposed to do, and there's nothing wrong with that. But if the police force is so incompetent every citizen needs to own and carry firearms, then there is clearly a problem.

when you need them most the police will not be there

When you need them most the firemen are also not there. Doesn't mean all people should hoard dozens of fire extinguishers.
Police is an example of a service where the benefits outweighs the costs, like firemen themselves. Most of the fire calls are false alarms or small fires that are extinguished by the owners or by themselves. However, the small part of fires that are very serious are very costly in lives and money, both to citizens and to the state, so it is worth it to keep a firemen corps. Similarly, a lot of police calls are false alarms or small misunderstandings, but there are a good number of legit cases that are also costly in lives and in money(they are different from fires in that they are more numerous and less costly individually, but in the big picture they are as or more costly), which by itself justifies the existence of a police force.
There are also deterrent measures, like locks, security systems and guns, which serve to slow down and stop the assailant while the police arrives.

bloodfox wrote:

Fleischgeruch wrote:

gen wrote:

xCross wrote:

Wow that's a lot of words! :O.

I'm too impatient to read

You mean you're too stupid to comprehend what DE is saying.

*restrains himself from writing sesquipedalian, lengthy reply*

Let's just say that this is hardly the community to share philosophical ideas and existentialist opinions.

*infinitesimals himself from writing bourgeois 10 page long essay*

lets just say im too quid por quo for you guys and want to boost my ego